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Applying for own 6 form : grammar what are they suposed to say?

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ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 01/01/2024 20:55

Dd wants to stay in her school and continue, grades allowing of course but what should she say?
How will she add value?
How do these subjects help with future aspirations? She doesn't know what she wants to do yet...

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troppibambini6 · 01/01/2024 21:08

Do you mean she's at a grammar and wants to stay for sixth form?
Dd was at grammar and stayed for sixth form all she had to do was get the grades. Is it different at your school?

shepherdsangeldelight · 02/01/2024 07:33

I'm not precisely sure why she needs to "say" anything?
State schools generally (have to?) allow existing students to stay on for sixth form, providing they get the required grades.

Nevermindtheteacaps · 02/01/2024 08:04

They couldn't care less what she says as long as her grades are good, they'll just be delighted to have the funding!

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 02/01/2024 09:29

Yes she's in a grammar and wants to stay on for 6 form.

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shepherdsangeldelight · 02/01/2024 10:36

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 02/01/2024 09:29

Yes she's in a grammar and wants to stay on for 6 form.

You haven't clarified why/what she needs to "say"?

The normal process would simply be that when she applies she writes down the qualifications she wants to study and may include extra detail such as future plans/career path. My DC's school would use this latter information to support future conversation if e.g. a subject was oversubscribed or undersubscribed or it was thought the student was not suitable for something they wished to study.

The sixth form will have a clear admissions policy. This won't be based on how much the student states they can add value.

dlago · 02/01/2024 10:42

Our comprehensive school requires an application and interview for 6th form.

Personally I think if you are at the school and get the grades it will be a scandal if they don't offer a place. I'm off to check formal admissions

Nonameoclue · 02/01/2024 10:44

State schools aren't allowed to interview. They can have a chat about the available options, but admissions are based purely (by law) on their published admissions policies

shepherdsangeldelight · 02/01/2024 10:48

dlago · 02/01/2024 10:42

Our comprehensive school requires an application and interview for 6th form.

Personally I think if you are at the school and get the grades it will be a scandal if they don't offer a place. I'm off to check formal admissions

The "interview" at DC's state school was simply a chat to make sure that DC have applied for the "correct" options in terms of their ability and any future aspirations and to provide the students with an opportunity to ask questions. It wasn't used as a deciding factor.

dlago · 02/01/2024 11:33

@shepherdsangeldelight @Nonameoclue thank you both, that is very reassuring.

Postapocalypticcowgirl · 02/01/2024 12:14

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 02/01/2024 09:29

Yes she's in a grammar and wants to stay on for 6 form.

Is it a state school with an "interview" for sixth form? If so, they aren't actually supposed to refuse students at interview, and the purpose of the interview will be to chat through her choices and whether they suit her future goals (it's okay if she doesn't know, but if she wanted to be say, a Vet and do Art, English and History A-levels, the school would use this as a chance to explain why that's a bad idea).

The school probably has entry requirements for sixth form, and maybe entry requirements for individual subjects. Does she know these? If she knows these and isn't meeting any of them, then it may be worth her explaining how she intends to work and meet the entry requirements, and what her back up plan would be.

At the end of the interview, she would usually be given a conditional offer. If she's worried about meeting this, she can discuss whether there is usually any flexibility on results day for current students (at a grammar there may not be).

Postapocalypticcowgirl · 02/01/2024 12:16

Nonameoclue · 02/01/2024 10:44

State schools aren't allowed to interview. They can have a chat about the available options, but admissions are based purely (by law) on their published admissions policies

They are allowed to call it an interview, they're just not allowed to use it as part of the selection process. As you say, it's generally a good chance to talk about options, and whether the courses chosen are suitable etc.

It would probably be better called an "advice session" or similar, though!

TeenDivided · 03/01/2024 10:53

Same as above. The 'interviews' for DD's 6th form college were about checking her options were sensible, she knew what they entailed, and they were consistent with future career aspirations.

betchalife · 03/01/2024 23:31

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 01/01/2024 20:55

Dd wants to stay in her school and continue, grades allowing of course but what should she say?
How will she add value?
How do these subjects help with future aspirations? She doesn't know what she wants to do yet...

As others have said, if she wants to stay, all she needs to do is get the minimum required grades.
If she has to fill in an "application form" that should just be aimed at specifying her course choices, nothing else.

Multiple schools have been found to be in breach of the admissions code by the schools adjudicator for asking for information about behaviour, aspirations, etc. It is not allowed. If the school was using that information for decision-making they would be wide open to successful appeals.

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