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westcliff or Southend grammar school

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Wends72 · 16/11/2023 06:17

My daughter attends SHSG after been offered a late place in July so had the whole summer to consider the place as originally we accepted a place at local school where all her friends attended. I have to say she seems to be enjoying it & it seems to be reflected in her marks although the commute is long. We have now received am offer from WHSG which was our first choice due to distance-bus leaves at 7.30 & is about 40mins compared to 90 mins for SHSG & bus fare is half the cost!so for me no brainier especially if you add in the fact that WHSG is more popular for OOC so more chance of her making local friends whereas SHSG is favoured for more locals!however, DD is adamant that she doesn’t want to go as the upheaval will be too much which I get but her biggest concern is that WHSG is more pushy & I wondered if anyone had any experience of this. I know they are higher in the league table so makes sense!the last thing I want to do is unsettle her which is inevitable in the short term but my instinct is that WHSG will be better in the longer run!ideally we would try out WHSG whilst they keep SHSG place open but this is blue sky so not sure best way forward?any thoughts ?

[Title edited by MNHQ at poster's request]

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TenaciousTortoise · 16/11/2023 06:20

IDK WHSG SHSG OOC IYSWIM

Fluffycloudsfloatinginthesky · 16/11/2023 06:23

You need to actually say the schools - as the last thread with these abbreviations showed there are many areas with schools that fit those initials!

Wimbledonmum1985 · 16/11/2023 06:26

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TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 16/11/2023 06:41

OK - I’m guessing what we have here is a “High School for Girls” prefixed by a place 🧐, so…

Wolverhampton and Southampton?
Walsall and Southend?
Wimbledon and Shrewsbury??

MirandaWest · 16/11/2023 06:55

My (brief) google suggests Westcliff high school for girls and Southend high school for girls. Don’t know the area at all though.

Cant work out OOC though - maybe out of catchment?

To me both those travel times sound long but from your DDs point of view she is the one doing the travelling and being at the school

OneRingToRuleThemAll · 16/11/2023 07:24

It's Westcliff and Southend. DD went to WHSG until y9 when she was managed out for SEN. She was 1 of 5 that year. Its a fabulous school unless they think their perfect grades are in jeopardy then they will do anything to offroll.

Wimbledonmum1985 · 16/11/2023 08:06

Wimbledon High School?
Surbiton High
Sydenham?
Who knows?

MarchingFrogs · 16/11/2023 08:08

Also going to assume Southend High School for Girls and Westcliff High School for Girls here, if only because we are local to schools in the vicinity of each other with those initials.

But also from the WHSG more popular with OOC thing. And the being influenced with the league table position thing, which is tbh much more an OOC thing when it comes to looking at the schools. I'm not sure how it can take another 50 minutes to get from WHSG to SHSG, though , so assuming completely different bus routes?

Our DD actually attended both - SHSG to GCSE (after most of year 7 at another school, having failed the CSSE test initially), then WHSG for A levels. Her main reasoning apparently being that a twenty minute walk from home was better than the same walking time in total plus seven minutes on the train. Four years after leaving WHSG, (six from leaving SHSG), it's her SHSG friends with whom she socialises when she's back here.

If local friends are a factor (for you), then surely a local school where you actually live, not one fairly distant grammar school or another, is the answer? Yes, the journey time to SHSG is significant, but you must have decided, back last October, that 'Grammar School' was the thing - knowing that so much time would be spent travelling there and back, there was no obligation on you to name SHSG on your CAF at all. But you did and your DD was eventually offered a place and you chose to accept it - and she says that she is happy at the school. She can always move to WHSG for A levels, if she wants to. Or to a school more local to where you live.

Wends72 · 16/11/2023 08:08

it’s Southend high school for girls & westcliff high school for girls but can’t seem to edit the title so will try & repost !!

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Coldcaller · 16/11/2023 12:02

One Ring: Off-rolling for not likely to get 7's at GCSE ?

I thought off rolling was only used to get troublesome pupils off the premises when Ofsted were about to turn up.
What do grammar school pupils do when they are off rolled ! Surely they don't take them on a trip to the Seaside, which is what my teacher DD2 school seams to do .

Westcliff High accepted those five pupils after they passed a quite rigorous Essex 11+ exam . How, can they off-roll them as if they are not capable of academic study.

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