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Wandsworth Test

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ModeWeasel · 24/10/2023 13:31

Does anyone know how many children tend to sit this test each year?

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coloursquare · 24/10/2023 14:05

It used to be all children in the borough. Now it's opt-in, so just depends how many choose to do it.

ModeWeasel · 24/10/2023 14:52

Thanks! Are there out of Bourough applicants too? Someone said around 800-1000 from out of Wandsworth tend to sit, but I can’t find any numbers.

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ModeWeasel · 24/10/2023 14:52

*borough

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LanguageTestQuery · 24/10/2023 15:07

Does anyone know in what year the test became opt-in? Was it this year? If so then that might well have an impact on the scores.

Cluelessbutwilling · 24/10/2023 15:10

It's been opt in for years as DD2 was an invigilator at her school for two or three Saturdays every year for the external candidates - I think they had circa 60 each week.

LanguageTestQuery · 24/10/2023 16:16

Thanks. My DS scored waaaay lower than we expected based on all previous scores, including CAT4 data, and hoped that this change might explain the disaster. Ah well!

ModeWeasel · 24/10/2023 16:33

This year was the first year tests were done at a different school to the kids’ primary wasn’t it?

That could possibly make a difference to number of kids going to the test.

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Rapunzelrella · 24/10/2023 16:39

@LanguageTestQuery We have had exactly the same experience, you aren't alone. I do think if they'd been able to do it in their primary schools, as in previous years, it would have made a difference at least to my dc.

coloursquare · 24/10/2023 17:43

It was compulsory until 2022 I think. You could arrange to do it outside of the prescribed day if you needed to. Now it's purely opt-in - you have to register.

What constitutes a disaster? Boundaries could actually be lower this year.

LanguageTestQuery · 24/10/2023 17:52

Unfortunately not low enough, I imagine. Last year was opt-in and the boundaries hardly shifted. My DS scored 223 so you'll understand my dispondency! Such a shock as he has passed for the Sutton grammars, has CAT4's in the 130's and his brother, who has a slightly less academic profile, scored 251 two years ago.
Just a bad day for him, I guess.

coloursquare · 24/10/2023 19:53

It's quite a blunt instrument, to be honest. Sorry you are disappointed but it sounds like your DS will do well wherever he goes - clearly very able.

ModeWeasel · 24/10/2023 21:12

Is his brother at Graveney? If so he should get in on sibling rule.

The whole 11+ system is crazy and any of the 10/11 year olds taking it could easily have a slightly off day.

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LanguageTestQuery · 24/10/2023 21:18

ModeWeasel · 24/10/2023 21:12

Is his brother at Graveney? If so he should get in on sibling rule.

The whole 11+ system is crazy and any of the 10/11 year olds taking it could easily have a slightly off day.

We ummed and aahed and went with another school in the end, but slightly regret that now as Graveney would suit our younger one much better!
I agree that the system of high stakes testing for young children is crazy. It needs fixing but that is a huge problem.
I always wondered if all children should take just one test but twice, and they use their best score.

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LanguageTestQuery · 24/10/2023 22:27

Theoretically, it would bring the scores down. Assuming that it is more highly motivated families opting in, the raw scores would be higher and therefore the mean of 100 would equate to a higher average score. But that did not seem to happen last year, so I am not sure whether it makes a difference in reality.

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