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Year 10 mocks vs actual GCSE's

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Realisticparent · 15/10/2023 12:36

Has anyone had any experience of this.

Are the year 10 mock exam results indicative of what grade will be achieved in year 11 actual exams?

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TeenDivided · 15/10/2023 12:39

They are bound to be indicative, but definitely not exact.
Someone getting 4s in mocks is unlikely to end up with 8s, and vice versa.
Will also be impacted by whether they bothered to revise properly for the y10 exams (and whether they bother to revise for the real things).
Also will depend on how the y10 exams are run. Are they tested on everything so far, or just a subset.
Y11 mocks will be more indicative.

Rewindthefilm · 15/10/2023 12:42

Depends on how seriously the student takes revision! But generally I have found a Y10 mock (on one full past paper) plus one grade is often what they get at GCSE.

Realisticparent · 15/10/2023 15:08

Thanks. Ds got 5s & 6s but didn't revise at all.

Suddenly it's all becoming very real and I'm throwing everything at making him revise.

Hoping he can get up to 6s and 7s.

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FallingAutumnLeaf · 15/10/2023 15:14

5/6 to 6/7 if he starts putting the work in is a very realistic aim.
But, bear in mind it's likely the Y10 mocks were only on half the GCSE content.

RainCloudsInTheSky · 15/10/2023 15:25

Rewindthefilm · 15/10/2023 12:42

Depends on how seriously the student takes revision! But generally I have found a Y10 mock (on one full past paper) plus one grade is often what they get at GCSE.

This is what we’ve been told by school too. If they put in revision as though it is the real thing they can usually expect to get a grade higher than their mock results from year 10.

Echobelly · 15/10/2023 15:26

My oldest is in Y11 and they say they expect Y10s to be 1-2 grades lower than they'll actually get.

DarkChocHolic · 15/10/2023 15:32

Our y10 actual and predicted were good.
Y11 mocks actual and predicted differed by 1 or 2 grades.
DD ended up getting most of her y11 actual grades in most subject. A few subjects she even fell 1 or 2 below actual y11 mocks...
So I would say y11 mocks are key...
And the work attitude after mocks to identify and close gaps is crucial....
Dd worked hard but certainly not smart...

Somewhatchallenging · 15/10/2023 15:33

I’d expect up to two grades higher.
My DD went from a D to a B (old system) from year 11 mocks to GCSE proper in maths.

TeenDivided · 15/10/2023 17:31

I would be careful about being lulled into a false sense of security by assuming a grade or 2 higher.

Yes, question answering technique will hopefully improve during y11 which should lead to higher grades. However there will be approx twice as much content to learn and double or more the number of exams to get through (it is a marathon not a sprint).

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 15/10/2023 19:10

I guess that depends a lot on how hard they work in Y11.

Takoneko · 15/10/2023 19:21

IME mocks tell you almost nothing about final grade. They are useful for practising being in an exam room and dealing with exam nerves and they are useful for telling the student where they are going wrong and could improve but they aren’t a good predictor of final grades. I had a 9 students in my class get a 3 in the year 11 mocks in March. Two of them ended up with a 3 in the real thing, 2 ended up with an 8 and the rest were all somewhere in between and all largely as I expected. I thought the 8s would more likely be 7s, but I wasn’t hugely surprised by any of the grades.

Ronaldoronalda · 15/10/2023 19:41

Just looked for you:

576676778 became
669898987 (same order)

So 2 went down and 7 went up. We always thought the school were over-optimistic on English and that dropped. The other she knew she was dropping and didn’t revise as much as she ran out of time and steam on it a bit. Overall a big improvement though and but worked much harder in y11.

CaptainMcDermott · 16/10/2023 16:29

@Realisticparent I would say that this comes down to a few things. There is learning the content of a subject and understanding it, there is memory recall and then there is exam technique. Look back over his year 10 exam papers and look at where he didn't get full marks on a question and work out why.

It also comes down to attitude, whether they rise up to the challenge or not. Ds1 decided predicted grades would not define him, he revised effectively because he worked out what worked for him and I tested him on his flashcards etc. But the school were also amazing in their teaching. The way they graded was if you were a minus grade you would scrape into the bottom of it, just the number in the middle and a plus you were near the top like when we were at school. So end of year 10 he was "predicted" 7+ 77 7- 6+6+6+ 66. What he actually got was 999998887.

I will admit that I saw my job as his parent to tutor him through some subjects so English lit and lang and tested him for History a lot as there was a lot of dates/events. Dh sat with him for science. That meant understanding what the exam board is looking for, so I looked at past papers for English lit and lang, looked at each question and the answers to see what scored marks. I helped him prepare descriptive sentences to use in whatever narrative he would write. You can literally google good descripive words for weather and just nick that. They are 16 they are not expecting the next best seller from them. Understand the system. For poetry if they are doing Power and Conflict, Mr Salles 5 key quotes on Youtube and why to use those massively helped have things prepared. Know about form and structure and find out what that is, it is probably already in his English classbook.

For History he had all the past paper questions from school and then made an simple essay plan for each question so he knew which way he would argue something, so agree statements and disagree statements plus conclusion but making sure they hit all the AO1s, AO2s (assessment objectives, these are listed for English too in the mark scheme) but he prepared a lot of this over the summer of year 10 when he wasn't also learning new content. Your son has time, just commiting to doing a bit every day. Go back over the year 10 stuff. Good luck.

And before anyone says I am over invested I wish I had parents who were invested in my schooling. Ds excelled at A levels because he wasn't doing subjects he was forced to like English anymore and didn't need any help from us and is now at uni.

Piony · 16/10/2023 17:47

For my eldest and a lot of their friends they were a big shock, and a kick up the arse to do more revision next time round.

Y10-11 is a big learning process, even more so at our school as they didn't really do end of year exams before that. This is just one step in the process. They are still acquiring all the skills they will need for their exams, it's ok for them not to have it all down pat in Y10.

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