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Lost GCSE Art folder Support Thread

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LostArt123 · 01/09/2023 22:08

Is my son the only one going into Yr11 having to redo his art work due to his Art folder going missing in school?

Does anyone have any words of advice, wisdom or solace? I’m feeling so sad for him because not only does he have to redo it but this will also eat into his time revising other subjects. It also means he’s not doing the new art work as school have advised him to focus on the redone work.

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LostArt123 · 03/09/2023 17:17

Ok because I was confused, I’ve just double checked with him what it is he has actually lost.

So it sounds like the thing that @Testina said was 60% of the marks is something he has AT SCHOOL (not lost) 😮‍💨 😮‍💨 because it’s massive and he hasn’t brought it home since Yr 9. This is probably what I’m thinking about when I’m thinking of the stuff I want is to be able to keep after his course.

The thing he’s lost is his sketchbook and that has some other stuff that was meant to be assessed, and this is what he is redoing. He is doing it in PowerPoint to stick into a new book I think. That’s the thing which is related to this digital project. The original work was all hand drawn but the teacher has advised to do it digitally and stick it in the book. Not sure whether this will affect the grade he can achieve since it won’t be hand drawn, but the teacher can advise him on that.

So it sounds better than I thought, I think? Also, he has come back from his Dad’s this evening saying he has managed to redo 75% of it (when he left here Friday he has done about 10% in his estimation). He has spent HOURS on it over there. So impressed with his resilience.

I still don’t fully understand, so I’m hoping once he goes back on Weds and speaks to his teacher, she’ll be able to fully advise and guide him.

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LostArt123 · 03/09/2023 17:18

(I just edited PO to PP)

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LostArt123 · 03/09/2023 17:22

Also edited to make it more readable and quote the PP

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Angrycat2768 · 03/09/2023 17:23

LostArt123 · 03/09/2023 17:17

Ok because I was confused, I’ve just double checked with him what it is he has actually lost.

So it sounds like the thing that @Testina said was 60% of the marks is something he has AT SCHOOL (not lost) 😮‍💨 😮‍💨 because it’s massive and he hasn’t brought it home since Yr 9. This is probably what I’m thinking about when I’m thinking of the stuff I want is to be able to keep after his course.

The thing he’s lost is his sketchbook and that has some other stuff that was meant to be assessed, and this is what he is redoing. He is doing it in PowerPoint to stick into a new book I think. That’s the thing which is related to this digital project. The original work was all hand drawn but the teacher has advised to do it digitally and stick it in the book. Not sure whether this will affect the grade he can achieve since it won’t be hand drawn, but the teacher can advise him on that.

So it sounds better than I thought, I think? Also, he has come back from his Dad’s this evening saying he has managed to redo 75% of it (when he left here Friday he has done about 10% in his estimation). He has spent HOURS on it over there. So impressed with his resilience.

I still don’t fully understand, so I’m hoping once he goes back on Weds and speaks to his teacher, she’ll be able to fully advise and guide him.

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That sounds great. We'll done him for doing all that work. Otherwise I'm going to have to look up thecspec for Art. My DS is coasting a bit as he's good at the art side but doesn't really like all the writing about why you have chosen this artist/ mood board side so hasn't done enough of it. And he does need the art to do what he wants to do!

Testina · 03/09/2023 17:38

Oh that sounds much more promising! I know more about AQA (child starting Y10) but my nephew did Edexcel and it looks identical.

The 60% coursework portfolio is working on in Y10 and first term Y11 (after that, they’re into the externally set exam piece). That has one major sustained piece of work - I think most schools use that as the Y10 mock. Plus other skills work. So they portfolio (usually A3) is the one that’s annotated and will have their original work plus copies of inspiration work.

So it sounds like what is lost / stolen is the sketchbook containing his current work (possibly a smaller project) which would be transferred to his portfolio. In which case, it’s still rubbish for him but very “catch-up-able” 😀

Testina · 03/09/2023 17:43

@Angrycat2768 from what I can see, there are more marks for the research and analysis of your piece (like other artist inspiration, analysing these), showing your development, working ideas through in other media, annotating all this than there are for the actual final piece that they produce.

Get him on TikTok, YouTube and Pinterest - there are loads of students presenting “my grade 8 portfolio” type videos.

Testina · 03/09/2023 17:49

“The original work was all hand drawn but the teacher has advised to do it digitally and stick it in the book.”

When I first read that, it sounded like his artwork was being re-sone digitally, which didn’t really make sense. But it sounds like it’s things like the layout of his artist research and annotation? A lot of students lay all that out by hand. If so, the quality of what he says is more important than whether he’s hand-drawn a nice title vs typed it and printed it out. So hopefully not a big impact. Lots of graded portfolio examples I’ve seen online have typed notation.

RedHelenB · 03/09/2023 18:14

Surely it makes more sense to do the new stuff on the off-chance it shows up,

Angrycat2768 · 03/09/2023 18:39

Testina · 03/09/2023 17:43

@Angrycat2768 from what I can see, there are more marks for the research and analysis of your piece (like other artist inspiration, analysing these), showing your development, working ideas through in other media, annotating all this than there are for the actual final piece that they produce.

Get him on TikTok, YouTube and Pinterest - there are loads of students presenting “my grade 8 portfolio” type videos.

I will do. The sad thing is that he has loved art since he was young, and has drawn from a very young age, but doing Art GCSE, he has lost his love of art. I've been getting him to draw for pleasure all summer to get his enthusiasm back up, but I think he's just going to have to suck it up now and knuckle down. I'll look for the YouTube videos.

LostArt123 · 03/09/2023 20:08

RedHelenB · 03/09/2023 18:14

Surely it makes more sense to do the new stuff on the off-chance it shows up,

He wants to get the redo done and dusted asap so it doesn’t affect the rest of his study time.

We don’t have much hope that it’ll turn up as it happened early June so the teachers across school have ready looked for it, we’ve asked the bus companies and looked everywhere it could be at home.

Baring being down the back of a cupboard at school as @BramblyHedge‘s experience was, it’s actually vanished.

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LostArt123 · 03/09/2023 20:09

Neither I nor his dad have very big houses and we’re both very organised so there aren’t many places it could be.

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Testina · 03/09/2023 20:36

@Angrycat2768 there are a lot of TikToks on the theme of, “my Y10 self telling my Y9 self: don’t do it!” 😏

It’s a bonus when it’s all done and dusted by April Y11 though! Hope he finds it worthwhile in the end.

Angrycat2768 · 03/09/2023 20:44

Testina · 03/09/2023 20:36

@Angrycat2768 there are a lot of TikToks on the theme of, “my Y10 self telling my Y9 self: don’t do it!” 😏

It’s a bonus when it’s all done and dusted by April Y11 though! Hope he finds it worthwhile in the end.

I bet! Apparently, that's what his whole class thinks 😄 He's wanted to be an animator since he was young and does endless detailed pen and ink illustrations, but he can't do what he likes for his GCSE!

Angrycat2768 · 03/09/2023 20:47

LostArt123 · 03/09/2023 20:08

He wants to get the redo done and dusted asap so it doesn’t affect the rest of his study time.

We don’t have much hope that it’ll turn up as it happened early June so the teachers across school have ready looked for it, we’ve asked the bus companies and looked everywhere it could be at home.

Baring being down the back of a cupboard at school as @BramblyHedge‘s experience was, it’s actually vanished.

Could it turn up over the holidays once all the stuff is removed etc over the holidays? He may be able tobdonut better second time round if he's already directly it once, I suppose!

LostArt123 · 03/09/2023 22:48

@Angrycat2768 It hasn’t turned up yet, which is why I really want to go and look for it myself - to put my mind at rest that no stone has been left unturned.

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mondaytosunday · 03/09/2023 22:50

The school lost a few of my daughter's GCSE artwork. It never left the building and she thought the cleaners might have just moved it then it got lost/thrown out. Very annoying and she had to redo them, and worse the teacher didn't think it was such a big deal!

LostArt123 · 03/09/2023 22:52

Wow, that’s shocking @mondaytosunday

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LostArt123 · 03/09/2023 22:56

So my understanding has changed again: he is now saying the thing that is in school and NOT LOST is something from year 9 and totally irrelevant.

He says the thing he’s lost is the thing a PP mentioned as being worth 60% of the mark.

So I’m back to thinking that what he has lost is a big deal. I mean, any lost work is a big deal isn’t it, it’s just that I can’t quite get a handle on the volume of redo. He is very determined to get it done so that he can do this new project the rest of the class have started over the holidays which the teacher advised him not to do as it was better to focus on the redo.

He wants to do both, so fingers crossed he doesn’t burn himself out or park to early with exam effort across the board.

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Testina · 03/09/2023 23:12

Oh that’s bad news 😢
Most schools work on that from Sep Y10 to Dec Y11. So it’s possible that 30% (up to half of this) isn’t done yet. So don’t panic about 60%.
The other positive is that having already done the thinking and choosing, it will take less time to re-do it than it did to create it originally.
For example, he will have had to choose and research artists, but he’ll already know them and will remember some of what he wrote about them. Also any time stop starting on his personal response (his own art) won’t be repeated - he knows what he wants to create.
It’s still a hell of a lot to re-do, but it’s not the full 60% or the full original workload.

Sounds obvious, but have you been back through your phones? You said there was stuff you wanted to keep - maybe you took a photo to share with a friend, maybe he took a screenshot of an artist’s work. Anything that can help as a prompt to speed up the re-do. Sketches in his room when practising for his mock? Good luck to him!

Angrycat2768 · 04/09/2023 07:56

Yes it cant be the full 60%. They have two more projects to do, AFAIK. My DS is starting a piece based on Power and Conflict in September and then a set piece by the exam board I think in April. That must count too, surely. Also, my DS also took a lot of photo's for his inspiration, so that must be some of it just in photographic form? Good idea to ask if you can have a look too though. Maybe best to speak to the teacher about the grades etc.

SoupDragon · 04/09/2023 08:08

You (and he!) have my sympathy. DS1 lost one of his GCSE art books (at school!) and had to redo it. The art department gave him loads of support to do it with extra sessions at break/lunch etc. He managed it but it was a lot of hard work.

good luck!

LostArt123 · 04/09/2023 10:58

Thank you @SoupDragon!

@Angrycat2768 - I think I’ll only get a proper sense of what he’s lost once he gets back and it all pans out. At the moment, he’s not being massively clear and I don’t really understand so it’s not a very good match 😂

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LostArt123 · 04/09/2023 11:20

And a big well done to all these children, like @SoupDragon’s, who got the redo done when in this position!

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Angrycat2768 · 04/09/2023 11:43

I feel your pain! As a result of this thread I've got DS to drag his art portfolio out and go through it all. I don't know anything about art, but he needs to do what he needs to do in all his subjects- back up what he's saying with examples and evidence. He's also 'analysed' by listing everything he hates about his art piece, so I'm getting him to do that again 😄

Testina · 04/09/2023 12:12

“He's also 'analysed' by listing everything he hates about his art piece, so I'm getting him to do that again 😄”

I really wouldn’t tell him that - but get him to speak to his teacher. Being critical about your own work (in the meaning of both critiquing and criticism!) is part of it.