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Attendance after GCSEs

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dexterslockedintheshedagain · 08/06/2023 12:53

My daughter is saying she doesn't have to go into school after her last exam (16 June) even though the term doesn't end until 21 July.
I'm not so sure, but also don't know what she would be doing all that time, as her exams have all been done! What would she be taught?!!
I've tried to clarify with the school, but they're not replying.
Should I still make her attend?

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x2boys · 09/06/2023 12:34

Snowtrails · 09/06/2023 11:38

I suppose the same way as they force them to start when they're of compulsory school age! It's really odd that schools are allowed to let young people leave school before they are legally allowed to, don't you think?

No,their exams are done ,what would they be doing for two weeks?I
I assume the school ,s will now be focussing on the current year 10
Obviously if there is a sixth form and the 16 year old hopes to attend school!s might do some transitional stuff but other than that ,activities would be pointless

OutDamnedSpot · 09/06/2023 13:21

dexterslockedintheshedagain · 09/06/2023 12:22

Transpires that yes, she does have a Leavers assembly on the 19th 🙄 and has been working on her shirt!!
So, yes, after that I have her all to myself until Sept!

Hahah. Excellent. The shirt thing seems to be new this year. In the past, they all just signed them. This year, there have been sequins etc.

Fairislefandango · 09/06/2023 15:41

It's really odd that schools are allowed to let young people leave school before they are legally allowed to, don't you think?

No. It's just an extra-long summer holiday. They aren't leaving education before they are legally allowed to, as they have to remain in education of some kind for another two years anyway!

Needmorelego · 09/06/2023 15:56

@Fairislefandango actually they have to stay in education for “another two years” at all.
The statutory school leaving date is 30th June in the academic year in which they turn 16.
Then (in England only) they can stay on at school or go to college, or do an Apprenticeship or - and this is the one that people don’t seem to realise - work for a minimum of 20 hours a week while doing some training. The training part is vague and could be anything and no one in authority cares or follows up if a 16 - 18 year old who has a full time job actually does some training.
I have known 16 year olds who have finished school at 16 when they finished their exams, stayed home for a couple of weeks and then on July 1st started working full time.

Needmorelego · 09/06/2023 15:57

Sorry- actually they DON’T I meant to say.

x2boys · 09/06/2023 16:02

Needmorelego · 09/06/2023 15:56

@Fairislefandango actually they have to stay in education for “another two years” at all.
The statutory school leaving date is 30th June in the academic year in which they turn 16.
Then (in England only) they can stay on at school or go to college, or do an Apprenticeship or - and this is the one that people don’t seem to realise - work for a minimum of 20 hours a week while doing some training. The training part is vague and could be anything and no one in authority cares or follows up if a 16 - 18 year old who has a full time job actually does some training.
I have known 16 year olds who have finished school at 16 when they finished their exams, stayed home for a couple of weeks and then on July 1st started working full time.

What kind of jobs ?
I left school in 1990 and it was more common for 16 year olds to leave school and get a full time job ,although plenty also went o college or did YTS.

haggisaggis · 09/06/2023 16:09

So in England even if kids are staying on for Sixth Form they don't need to return to school after GCSEs until start of next school year? Scottish kids would be most jealous- those staying on for 5th and 6th year will start their new school year immediately after the exams.

Needmorelego · 09/06/2023 16:19

@x2boys 16 year olds that have been already working weekends/school holidays in jobs like retail,cafes,hospitality etc often want to go full time asap and July 1st they can - and they do.

x2boys · 09/06/2023 16:24

Needmorelego · 09/06/2023 16:19

@x2boys 16 year olds that have been already working weekends/school holidays in jobs like retail,cafes,hospitality etc often want to go full time asap and July 1st they can - and they do.

I wasn't disputing that they do.and in fact i.was just looking at my paperwork.I have to.fill.in that my son will.be returning to.education in September otherwise his child benefit will.stop.
Just curious as to what kind of work they did .

Fairislefandango · 09/06/2023 16:26

@Fairislefandango actually they have to stay in education for “another two years” at all. The statutory school leaving date is 30th June in the academic year in which they turn 16. Then (in England only) they can stay on at school or go to college, or do an Apprenticeship or - and this is the one that people don’t seem to realise - work for a minimum of 20 hours a week while doing some training. The training part is vague and could be anything and no one in authority cares or follows up if a 16 - 18 year old who has a full time job actually does some training.

Yes, admittedly the 'some kind of education' is pretty vague. But I was responding to a poster who seemed to be suggesting that schools were somehow shirking their responsibilities, keen to sneakily turf kids out to deprive them of their ongoing studies, which is ridiculous. They have finished their course. Most will be moving on to further education, apprenticeships or work and training. What on earth would be the purpose of keeping them in school just for the sake of it for a few more weeks?

x2boys · 09/06/2023 16:28

haggisaggis · 09/06/2023 16:09

So in England even if kids are staying on for Sixth Form they don't need to return to school after GCSEs until start of next school year? Scottish kids would be most jealous- those staying on for 5th and 6th year will start their new school year immediately after the exams.

Not all.kids that go to sixth form attend a school.sixth form ,we have a,large sixth form college in my town plus another large college offering vocational courses ,many schools only to up.to year eleven so they have to enrol.at college after their results are out although most will.have condtional.offers .

Needmorelego · 09/06/2023 16:35

@x2boys yes child benefit (or other benefits you receive relevant to having a child) stopping is the only ‘consequence’ of a 16 -18 year old not being in education or training. There’s no fines or threats of court if they don’t do it. Nothing happens except the loss of benefits.

SabbatWheel · 19/06/2023 01:21

piedbeauty · 08/06/2023 23:06

Why would she be doing GCSEs in Year 10?!

Some components of some subjects can be taken in Year 10 in Wales.

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