Anyone any idea how much this would pay in an independent school?

[LaurieFairyCake]

Maternity cover teacher, secondary, independent, core subject where very hard to get teachers. London.

UPS teacher.

Just wondering what the offer might be

Hi OP, you should report your post and ask MNHQ to move your thread to secondary education. This board is used by university staff.

Hmm no way to do this still on the app - wonder why not?

Mumsnet, move to secondary school for me please

Hi @LaurieFairyCake - we've moved your thread over to our Secondary Education topic, as requested

No way to know until you try. Lots won't offer TPS though.

Are they advertising it as a UPS post? That in itself is unusual. If they are, I'd imagine they're offering an approximation of the UPS scale.

Lots of private schools don't even use qualified teachers though and many have come away from TPS . I have a colleague who is a MS6 teacher with SEN allowance and recently turned down a job as Head of English with a private school becuase it was a pay cut. The only way to find out is to ask.

It's not in the advert about UPS so no idea

However all of the candidates were probably UPS (age 40's/50's)

OP it's very likely to be less than in a state school. You won't know unless you ask.

They've offered now (£57k- I assume because of the shortage subject and how hard to get maternity cover

What's the difference between that and what you'd get in a state?

It partially depends on how financially healthy the independent school is. Looking on the charity commission website can make for interesting reading.

Also is TPS included in that offer?

Most independents are still in the TPS.

There are lots of large, successful independents in London who will pay significantly more than state pay. There are also lots of smaller and struggling schools that pay less than state pay. It totally depends on the type of school.

UPS isn’t a thing, as such as the pay scales won’t be MPS and UPS. However, larger independents will be paying well over £50k to standard classroom teachers who have many years of experience.

In larger schools and in these shortage subjects and if they really need someone, if they think you’re a really good fit, they will throw money at you if necessary. If you’re really good, a large school will also look to keep you beyond a maternity leave, regardless of whether you’re 100% needed at that point…..if you get a good Physicist apply for a maternity cover, who can deliver well to that particular type of cohort, then they definitely won’t want to lose the teacher, even if they are fully staffed with Physicists.

Can you say if it’s boys/girls/mixed and day or boarding? HMC schools tend to be the bigger, more successful and better paying schools.

OP, you could always ask for a couple of £k more, if you feel you’re in a strong position. If you do t ask…

I was going to say this too. You have to treat this like going to a private company. There's no pay scales, it's all flexible.

This is a good point. A friend has recently accepted what sounds like a lovely job at a small SEN provision, but they currently have 5 students and a lot more staff. Even at £60k per place, I can't see how they survive financially.