Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Secondary education

Connect with other parents whose children are starting secondary school on this forum.

Which school to choose?

13 replies

marzipansux · 03/04/2023 08:05

Am completely flummoxed. My just turned12 year old can go to a selective government school for basically free ( BUT is an hour public transport either way).
Or a selective streamed senior school, only 25 minutes each way but requires a drive as no public transport.
Or the local public high school -but this school is so bad that it's been on the news for the violence.
Or a private independent grammar who I 'm pretty sure he will get a scholarship for at least half fees. Still 11k after the scholarship ( Aus dollars).
Which would you choose?
My older kids all went to local government schools and was not an issue but we have moved semi-rural now and things are a tad different.
Any advice appreciated.
Older kids have blitzed everything. I worry about our move to the country , if we have limited our youngest's opportunities .

OP posts:
Nimbostratus100 · 03/04/2023 08:07

can you manage the drive every day, there and back for the whole school career? otherwise, what is the one hour journey like? Lots of other pupils or isolated? Chance to read/ do homework or standing on a crammed bus?

Vistro · 03/04/2023 08:11

I wouldn't go for the hour journey school - that seems way too far.

I think I'd go for the for 25 mins away selective school, if you can manage the transport.

Could you afford the private school fees?

ReneeX · 03/04/2023 08:19

12 years old... You must have surely just received secondary national offer... Why do you consider it still as a choice?

Paq · 03/04/2023 08:20

25 minute drive if you can lift share. An hour on public transport is a killer for kids.

KiwiSurprise · 03/04/2023 08:32

What are the schools themselves like? You only mention the distance, not what they offer, what the results are like. Given it sounds like you're in Australia a lot of us won't be familiar with the school system there so it's hard to advise without more info. Do you know where other people who live in your area tend to send their kids?

ReneeX · 03/04/2023 08:59

Ah Australia..

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 03/04/2023 09:10

You don't say if option 2 is also free or if you have the funds for the private option.

A two hour daily round trip for school is a bit of a killer. It's worth bearing in mind that for parent teacher meetings, any social (birthdays/days out with friends) or school activities that means he/she will miss the bus you will have a 2 hr round trip to do a pick up. That will get old very quickly. Do you have older children/family/friends nearby to that school option?

25 mins by comparison is not bad. And you could put the word out for a lift share.

Private school if means allow but depends on the results I guess. It's not always a better option depending on the child and their interests.

marzipansux · 03/04/2023 09:27

Yes Option 2 is free as well.
Option1 is public transport ( free as well)
Option 2 has no direct public transport so would need to drive.
My adult child doesn't want his younger brother to go to the private as he will turn " into a grammar boy". he's joking but it seems to be a thing.

OP posts:
marzipansux · 03/04/2023 09:33

KiwiSurprise · 03/04/2023 08:32

What are the schools themselves like? You only mention the distance, not what they offer, what the results are like. Given it sounds like you're in Australia a lot of us won't be familiar with the school system there so it's hard to advise without more info. Do you know where other people who live in your area tend to send their kids?

Yes. Fair enough.
I was just asking about the transport issues. Option 1 probs has the best academic outcomes - but as it is selective that is to be expected.
The expensive Grammar school has above average outcomes but nowhere near the other options as doesn't screen academically except for a few students who are in on scholarships.
Option 3 is almost the biggest high school in the state, ( over 1500 students) but he is used to the area as he went to the primary and he may rise to the top . He is a tad quirky so may well sink to the bottom.
Very hard decision.
Yes I can just about afford the private Grammar fees , only if he gets the scholarship.

OP posts:
KiwiSurprise · 03/04/2023 11:09

I'm in London where some kids do have a commute of an hour and it's quite normal for them. We considered it but decided on a closer school. Things we thought about were: Is it an easy commute? Lots of changes? Reliable? Likely to be anyone else doing it?

Kids I know who do it seem to quite enjoy it as they have others around and make train friends. One kid I know does it by bus and hates it because the bus is slow, unreliable and nobody else does it.

marzipansux · 04/04/2023 08:08

Oh ta. I'm worried about him making friends so far away.

OP posts:
Joan51 · 04/04/2023 10:56

My son went from a non government school to the only boys selective government school (years 9-12)in our state (of Australia). As it only selects the top 3% from any school it was very diverse and he made friends with students from all across the metropolitan area. Instead of being the only quirky student he was amongst many similar students and had found his tribe. Like many students he travelled there on public transport - bus and two trains- about an hour, and made friends on the way. By travelling by train it enabled him to travel easily to friends’ homes out of school. The school expected students to be able to get themselves around and many sports activities were reached by the boys travelling unsupervised to their sports location. There were also many extra curricular activities beside all the sports activities. Well worth the travel. Quite a number of students also travelled from other towns well beyond the metropolitan region such is the reputation of the school as a top academic school. Much better to attend a school easily reached by public transport than having to rely on an adult driving them every day. It all helps in developing their maturity and independence.

Pythonesque · 06/04/2023 12:15

I think you need to try to find out where the schools you are considering draw from (and how most kids get to them), and where kids "near" where you are typically go (and how they get there).

We grew up in Sydney; I was out of area for any of the zoned selectives (this was before they started expanding selective schooling again, which probably rather dates me now!), the only available option was a complex journey on public transport and my parents felt it was too far. DH was in an area where that school made sense. My sister and I both ended up on scholarships at independents. My journey door-to-door was about 3/4 hour which was less than many at my school. Her journey was a bit longer but also, changed timings significantly every time the train timetables were revised. She was perceived as "out of area" for her school even though others on slower transport routes took as long to get there; sometimes that created difficulties. Oh and most of our journey was on trains where we could often get work done.

As is often discussed on here, travelling independently is a huge life skill gained at secondary school so it would seem a shame to take on an option where that was impossible. But in rural areas all bets are off, I realise! Do the kids get permission to drive in yr 12 and is that likely to be an option for your family, given your child is at the older end of the yeargroup?

When do extracurricular activities run at each of these schools, what is your child likely to be interested in? Schools with a large cohort travelling significant distances may arrange more clubs etc during the school day rather than everything being after school, for example.

Kids who are a "tad quirky" deserve to be matched with a school that feels a better fit for them, if possible. Good luck figuring out a good solution and, since you have moved since your adult children were educated, don't let them prevent you choosing what this child needs.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page