CLSG or G&L

[JaneO11]

My daughter got offered a place from City of London School for Girls and Godolphin & Latymer. We like both schools, and can not decide.

Looking for views on both schools. Thanks a lot.

G&L send lots to the USA as has quite an international parent body who can both afford Ivy League & don’t think twice about having kids on different continents. Early offers were accepted this year to Columbia, Georgetown, Harvard, MIT, Penn, and Yale. Many also go to Bocconi.
Things may change with Trump in power & this year’s leavers destinations will be interesting. Anecdotally, the Oxbridge offers are up this year

A interesting read….’Forget Oxbridge. For today’s gilded youth, Ivy League is the goal — and parents will spend a fortune to get them there’

https://www.thetimes.com/article/6699402e-1e1c-11ec-b8f6-2f9fbbeddc5b?shareToken=5cf05d700998eb56326e2d71cc45e332

Trump policy and pressure on Ivy Leagues would benefit students who have green card or US passports, plus legacy admissions where parents are alumni. US universities have no limit to how many you can apply but are now having to reduce international students.
It is not just the numbers going to Oxbridge but what they studying there. In the current job market a person with a degree on Data Science from Warwick is more employable than a First in History from Oxbridge, unless they have work experiences.

I work in the private school sector and in my experience, the ones who can afford it will go the States and not apply to Oxbridge. The ones that cant afford US but have an EU passport will go to Europe. Fewer are now applying to Oxbridge. I would look at any uni results (particularly G&L) taking the US into consideration. Eton has most of their top tier students going US at the moment. For G&L and Eton there is a strong international intake therefore going international is a given. I went to Oxford because I could not afford Ivy. That was a while ago.

Furthermore, it is worth noting that G&L is not as high on the league table as it should be because only ALevels are taken into consideration. They also offer IB, which tends to be chosen by the stronger candidates and is more favoured by unis outside UK.

Taking US schools into account, the placement record is still mediocre.

@ACavalierDream I don't think US universities is the answer, even it is a decent record. Latymer Upper sends about the same to similar US names, but it consistently does materially better in Oxbridge too. Even Sevenoaks sends a lot more to both US and Oxbridge, even accounting for its 2x cohort.

I don't know what metric you are using to compare but to me those results look very good indeed. Describing it as mediocre sounds frankly like you have an axe to grind. It is worth noting that Oxbridge is not always the best place for some courses. One needs to look beyond the name. It depends on what courses are taken as mentioned by someone else above in the thread. Some can be a backdoor entry. The same way it used to be for some colleges (the snobbery at Oxford is high and there is a hierarchy) before they changed the system, although it still exists. Things are never as simple as looking at a list of results. It is more complex than that.

Spending 30k+ for 7-8 years and not aiming at Oxbridge/Ivy for a better fit, then should just go to the Afrikan High. It all sounds like excuses to me. McGill and the likes are very easy to get in, many idiots (including myself) got scholarships

About 20 to Oxbridge this year. And others actively choosing Imperial over Oxbridge, as well as the multitudes heading overseas in preference to Oxbridge. Others with AAA and AAA* not bothering with Oxbridge and electing for eg. Bristol, Durham, Exeter depending on courses.
Times are really changing.

NB. Not sure why the 'stars' in my post did not post correctly!

The stars thing is really annoying, it's a formatting shortcut - putting stars either side of a character puts it in bold!

Yes! 🤣.
Anyway, should have read 3 A stars or 2 A stars and an A. (Not to mention the IB pupils or those taking more than 3 A- levels).