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School offers day 2023

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UsernameOfMine · 09/02/2023 10:01

So.... secondary school offer day is almost upon us. How is everyone dealing with the wait?

My DD is thinking about it far more than I would have hoped, is counting down the days and asking everyday if they will come out early. She's angry at the council that they can't sort the whole process out in a week. Apparently it's "not that hard to sort it out"🤔 I have tried to explain the process and that it's not just her it's every other child in the district (and neighbouring district as we've applied for schools there too), but she's just being impatient to know.

I'm thinking about it...but I thought I'd be worse with her been dc2 and wanting her to go to the same school as dc1. (No sibling priority at that school) but she's got a good chance of it so trying not to stress.

So how about everyone else?

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SamPoodle123 · 09/02/2023 10:07

My dd is anxiously waiting for the 11+ offers, which come tomorrow. We did apply to one state school, so will be interesting to see if she gets a spot on the offer day. When we were waiting for Primary, I was so anxious and excited. We did not get our first choice, but eventually a couple years later so it all worked out. Good luck!

ArnoldBee · 09/02/2023 10:12

We knew on Jan 10th what school my son will be going to as they asked my DH how our son is related to his daughter that already attends!

ABigSpot · 09/02/2023 10:20

Not that anxious here as we live rurally and there's only one obvious choice. Daughter seems pretty chilled about it!

starpatch · 09/02/2023 17:08

Yeah starting to think about it (secondary offers day for us so 1st March). The school is pretty much a dead cert but its all going to feel a lot realler, and that secondary is very close at that point!

PatChaunceysFruitCake · 09/02/2023 21:58

I agree with your DD! They can't need 5 months to sort this. Surely software allocates the majority of places?!

We are anxiously waiting. Choice #2 is our catchment school where she will definitely get a place. It's fine, it's a good school and she liked it when we looked. Unfortunately she has her heart set on choice #1 which she absolutely loved when we looked round.

We'd have got a place in four out of the last five years so it wasn't an unrealistic choice but I'm nervous about it. I've tried hard to manage DD's expectations but I know she will be upset if she doesn't get her first choice.

prh47bridge · 09/02/2023 22:49

Software is involved, but it isn't that simple.

The LA has to identify anyone who has applied for a school in another LA and forward details of their application to the appropriate LA. They also have to find out if anyone from other LAs has applied to schools in their LA.

The LA has to construct a list of applicants for each school and carry out address checks and check claims for sibling priority.

If the LA includes a category for pupils with special medical needs in their admission arrangements, they need to assess the claims for inclusion in that category. That involves getting suitably qualified individuals to meet and assess each application.

For schools that are their own admission authority (most of them these days), the LA has to forward the list of applications to the school so that they can sort them into order using their oversubscription criteria. As part of this, the school will need to assess claims for special medical need if they have such a category, faith schools will need to check claims for priority on faith grounds and so on.

Once the LA has all the sorted lists back, we come to the bit that can be automated. Software can work out who qualifies for a place at each school, see who has qualified for more than one school and eliminate all but their highest preference, and make sure that each pupil has no more than one offer. They may then allow the software to allocate places at the nearest school available for pupils that don't have a place anywhere.

The LA then has to notify any other LA that sent applications for places at their schools whether or not those applications were successful and wait to hear from those LAs whether the places are actually required - they won't be if the applicant got a higher preference elsewhere. Similarly, if any applicants named schools outside this LA, they have to wait to hear from those LAs if they applications were successful. If they were, they remove the local offer(s), which leads to pupils who missed out on the relevant schools moving up the list and getting offers.

When all movement has stopped and everything has been thoroughly checked, they are ready to make offers. Of course, even if they are ready a week or two before national offers day, they can't make offers then as the government has decided that all offers must be made on the same day.

The idea that you simply feed all the applications into a computer and it spits out the allocations in a few minutes is miles from the truth. There is a lot of manual processing involved.

Attictroll · 10/02/2023 11:17

Ds is unbothered - we put our local school we are safely in distance of second and one which is lottery first. It's further away and likely he will know no one there but he liked it.

Everyday I change my mind which one I would prefer the local one with lots of people he knows but is a bit rough around the edges or the nicer one with no one. Both our outstanding according to ofsted but I worry which he will thrive at.

MissWings · 10/02/2023 11:21

A bit nervous but on the whole hopeful. I live very close by to the most oversubscribed state secondary in the city. She does have a sibling at the school but to be honest the majority of the intake (120) will also be kids who have siblings at this school. 🤞

UsernameOfMine · 10/02/2023 15:46

prh47bridge · 09/02/2023 22:49

Software is involved, but it isn't that simple.

The LA has to identify anyone who has applied for a school in another LA and forward details of their application to the appropriate LA. They also have to find out if anyone from other LAs has applied to schools in their LA.

The LA has to construct a list of applicants for each school and carry out address checks and check claims for sibling priority.

If the LA includes a category for pupils with special medical needs in their admission arrangements, they need to assess the claims for inclusion in that category. That involves getting suitably qualified individuals to meet and assess each application.

For schools that are their own admission authority (most of them these days), the LA has to forward the list of applications to the school so that they can sort them into order using their oversubscription criteria. As part of this, the school will need to assess claims for special medical need if they have such a category, faith schools will need to check claims for priority on faith grounds and so on.

Once the LA has all the sorted lists back, we come to the bit that can be automated. Software can work out who qualifies for a place at each school, see who has qualified for more than one school and eliminate all but their highest preference, and make sure that each pupil has no more than one offer. They may then allow the software to allocate places at the nearest school available for pupils that don't have a place anywhere.

The LA then has to notify any other LA that sent applications for places at their schools whether or not those applications were successful and wait to hear from those LAs whether the places are actually required - they won't be if the applicant got a higher preference elsewhere. Similarly, if any applicants named schools outside this LA, they have to wait to hear from those LAs if they applications were successful. If they were, they remove the local offer(s), which leads to pupils who missed out on the relevant schools moving up the list and getting offers.

When all movement has stopped and everything has been thoroughly checked, they are ready to make offers. Of course, even if they are ready a week or two before national offers day, they can't make offers then as the government has decided that all offers must be made on the same day.

The idea that you simply feed all the applications into a computer and it spits out the allocations in a few minutes is miles from the truth. There is a lot of manual processing involved.

Haha this is what I've tried to explain to DD.... And also that it's not as simple as giving everyone their first choice.
She also thinks that when they've decided on the school for the child that they should then be told their school place. I've tried to explain that's not fair and would cause upset to those still waiting.

I've told her I could set an alarm for midnight on 1st march so she knows a few hours earlier.... But she's not impressed at that idea because she "needs her sleep" (I swear I can't win with this pre-teen)

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MissWings · 10/02/2023 15:59

@UsernameOfMine

She sounds as delightful as mine 😉.

PatriciaHolm · 10/02/2023 16:01

I've told her I could set an alarm for midnight on 1st march so she knows a few hours earlier.... But she's not impressed at that idea because she "needs her sleep" (I swear I can't win with this pre-teen)

And most likely wouldn't work anyway as often the emails come out from 5pm onwards! So she would be especially grumpy ;-)

MissWings · 10/02/2023 16:02

@PatriciaHolm

Ive always had mine right after midnight. Usually check during my 2am wee 🤦‍♀️.

snowtrees · 10/02/2023 17:20

Luckily ours is a done deal. Sibling priority at a good school close by. But I'll be glad when we get past offers day as the kids are all winding each other up. Tensions over who gets into private & state grammars plus which of three highs.

UsernameOfMine · 10/02/2023 17:30

PatriciaHolm · 10/02/2023 16:01

I've told her I could set an alarm for midnight on 1st march so she knows a few hours earlier.... But she's not impressed at that idea because she "needs her sleep" (I swear I can't win with this pre-teen)

And most likely wouldn't work anyway as often the emails come out from 5pm onwards! So she would be especially grumpy ;-)

My elder DC's place was published on the online account at 12:30am (ish) I couldn't sleep so kept refreshing the page lol. The Email didn't actually arrive until middle of the day.

The problem is.... We didn't get the school we wanted for him so then we were gutted and didn't sleep 😭 (he got in his No1 school a month later off waiting list movement so worked out in the end)

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Pipsquiggle · 10/02/2023 20:41

I am so over this waiting.

Our first choice, we would have got in every year but one in the last 5 years, so fingers crossed.

I really hope the email comes out early - do they all come out at the same time or does it depend on your LA?

PatriciaHolm · 10/02/2023 20:45

Surrey/London are usually evening. Sounds as if others differ!

Pipsquiggle · 10/02/2023 20:57

I am in Berks. God I hope it's early, I am due to be out that day for our works Christmas lunch (postponed twice due to train strikes)

starpatch · 10/02/2023 20:58

Kent- just checked it says 4pm- strangely that bothers me as I was imagining telling DS before he went to school.

Rockbird · 10/02/2023 21:02

I'm 99% sure that DD2 will get the same school as DD1 - we're in catchment and sibling. I'm more worried about her tbh. She's very anxious and doesn't want to talk about moving school. She's not usually an anxious child. Hoping the next 6 months help her a bit even though I don't want my baby to grow up too fast!

Tappetytap · 12/02/2023 16:01

The first months seem to fly by but since since Feb 1st time seems to be standing still. I've got myself into a bit of a flap about it. We ended up putting a school that's about a 1.5 mile walk as first choice. I can drop DD in the morning but can't collect and now I'm panicking it's too far. We liked the fact that it's small and it had a good vibe (the facilities aren't good though). Is a 1.5 mile walk home too far? She is really petite for her age. Im also worried about the safety aspect of it. To add to this DD has now gone off the idea of choice 1 as she likes the idea of choice 2 being round the corner and she says it'll save her an hour a day walking home and0 she can spend more time chilling. Choice 1 we'd of got in 2 of the last 4 years so we may not get it anyway. Choice 2 is round the corner (literally) it's got an outstanding ofsted and much better facilities and results. It's notoriously up and down reputation wise though but at the moment it's doing well. I know we will get that for definite. It didn't have a bad vibe just didn't like the feeling as much as choice 1. Should I have just put choice 1?

Tappetytap · 12/02/2023 16:02

*should I have just put choice 2 as choice 1?

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 12/02/2023 16:06

starpatch · 10/02/2023 20:58

Kent- just checked it says 4pm- strangely that bothers me as I was imagining telling DS before he went to school.

How did you find out your time?

snowtrees · 12/02/2023 19:22

@Tappetytap See how your gut feel is on offer day. You can always jump on wait list for school 2 if you get 1.
Accept 1. See if you get a place at 2
We have friends who did this

Tappetytap · 12/02/2023 19:33

Good idea @snowtrees. Although I told DH I was absolutely sure I wanted school 1 to be first on the list when he said "you're gonna do a 360 on this and realise that school 2 makes so much more sense practically, the facilites are nicer, the ofsted is better, the results are better, and its round the corner". "I won't" I said. I have a feeling I'm gonna have to eat humble pie about it all 😂

starpatch · 12/02/2023 19:47

Tappetytap if it helps re. the walk then mine is going to be walking 1.5 miles and I don't think that's very far, have actually been congratulating myself on how close it is (assuming he gets that one).
Bernadette I just put Kent and what time to secondary offers come into google and it came up as it was on the Kent website.

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