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What is the issue with the coats?

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Leffeandolives · 23/01/2023 21:37

I have heard to be prepared for my DC not to wear her coat from next year that she will go to a secondary school. At the moment she does, so I don't understand what would change next year!

Is it true? Do secondary schools advise kids not to wear coats in winter?

If there are no lockers are there no pegs too?

Could they not place them at the back of their chairs as we do at work?

Apologies but I am not originally from the UK, have not attended a British school and I don't know how it works.

When I went at school, we had pegs in each classroom or put them at the back of our chairs (most of the times). And we always wore them during the breaks that we had to be outside at the playground. Actually we could wear them whenever we wanted to wear them!

Help please!

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MrsHamlet · 23/01/2023 21:52

This has to do with their health & safety though, their teachers should make them wear coats!
No. I'm their teacher. I have enough to do without also being the coat police.
You want your child to wear a coat? That is not my problem to solve.
Their GCSE English? That's on me.

MaverickGooseGoose · 23/01/2023 21:53

Dts are in y7, they have enough to haul around without adding a coat on top of the blazer. The lockers are too small and they don't have access at the end of the day for a reason I haven't quite figured out.

I'm old and I never ever wore a coat in secondary.

OnTheRunWithMannyMontana · 23/01/2023 21:54

My DD is Y9 so in her third year of high school. She wears a coat when it's cold.

The main reason some of them don't is that they don't have lockers like we used to do they have to cart them around with them all day and lessons will be in 5 or 6 different classrooms per day.

DD's school also has a RIDICULOUS rule of no coats to be worn on site. So even if it's a blizzard or a monsoon they have to take their coats off at the school gates and get to the entrance doors without wearing them.

Houseplantmad · 23/01/2023 21:54

At the school at the vast majority wear coats- many bring their blazer in their bag and put it on when they arrive and take their coat off.

DanglingMod · 23/01/2023 21:55

Students at my school wear coats. Practically all of them. We don't have lockers. They wear their coats around school and take them off in class (,unless heating off and then they can keep them on) and on backs of chairs.

It's not universal.

Leffeandolives · 23/01/2023 21:56

Are there no pegs too?

I can't understand that when someone is at primary wears coat but from Y7 to university don't and then when they start uni they start wearing coats again until retirement.

Surely something is not right?

Imagine someone not wearing shoes from Y7 to adulthood and then back shoes on again!

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Leffeandolives · 23/01/2023 21:58

MaverickGooseGoose · 23/01/2023 21:53

Dts are in y7, they have enough to haul around without adding a coat on top of the blazer. The lockers are too small and they don't have access at the end of the day for a reason I haven't quite figured out.

I'm old and I never ever wore a coat in secondary.

Were you not cold or were you doing it to be cool?

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PuttingDownRoots · 23/01/2023 21:58

Mine wears her coat, as do a large proportion of the other kids at her school. Maybe its because its just a shirt and blazer, no jumpers... DD does however insist on wearing socks not tights most days, even in the current cold weather.

However they can't wear them inside. They need to put them in their lockers. (Which cost £2 for key deposit. )

Hellocatshome · 23/01/2023 21:59

Leffeandolives · 23/01/2023 21:56

Are there no pegs too?

I can't understand that when someone is at primary wears coat but from Y7 to university don't and then when they start uni they start wearing coats again until retirement.

Surely something is not right?

Imagine someone not wearing shoes from Y7 to adulthood and then back shoes on again!

Laughing at pegs. My old Secondary had pegs but have you seen the cost of the coats the teens wear these days? They would be pinched in 30 seconds off a peg. You seem to be getting wound up about this considering your child may well be one of the coat wearers and plenty of people have told you their kids wear coats. Some do some dont it's not a universal rule or anything.

Butterfly44 · 23/01/2023 22:00

I forever nag about wearing a coat. I don't think it's so much the weather, it's the hassle of carrying it around with them.
At primary they are in one classroom for the day, at secondary they go from class to class with their bag and belongings. A coat is bulky.

Leffeandolives · 23/01/2023 22:01

Hellocatshome · 23/01/2023 21:59

Laughing at pegs. My old Secondary had pegs but have you seen the cost of the coats the teens wear these days? They would be pinched in 30 seconds off a peg. You seem to be getting wound up about this considering your child may well be one of the coat wearers and plenty of people have told you their kids wear coats. Some do some dont it's not a universal rule or anything.

Do you mean that in secondary schools kids steal one from another things like coats? Really?

This never happened when I was going to school (not in the UK though).

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Fifiellz · 23/01/2023 22:01

My kids wear coats and so do the rest of the school. However it appears they all have the same £350 North Face one.

Maybe they only wear a coat if it bankrupts mum and dad in the process

TenThousandSpoons · 23/01/2023 22:02

My dd hardly ever wore a coat in year 7 and 8. Now in year 9 she wears it. She’s also switched to a practical rucksack instead of the handbag she was using as a school bag a year ago. So I think more concerned with comfort/practicalities now that she’s a very grown up 14 year old 😆

mondaytosunday · 23/01/2023 22:03

Nothing to do with the schools, it's the kids. No coats ever (at least to school, they seem fine wearing them on other occasions).

MrsHGWells · 23/01/2023 22:03

With or without lockers at school, college is the time for black puffers - superga, supre? North face etc

Tree543 · 23/01/2023 22:03

My ds are 11, 15 and 17.
They all wear coats as do most of the other kids at their school from what I have seen. They don't have a blazer as part of the uniform if that makes a difference. They either wear the coat around school or squash it into their bag.

Hellocatshome · 23/01/2023 22:03

Leffeandolives · 23/01/2023 22:01

Do you mean that in secondary schools kids steal one from another things like coats? Really?

This never happened when I was going to school (not in the UK though).

Yes expensive things may get stolen in Secondary school. My sons coat (that he doesn't wear to school) cost him £495 no way is he hanging it on a peg unattended all day in a school of thousands of pupils some of which are theives.

Casilero · 23/01/2023 22:03

It's because (at my daughter's school anyway) there aren't enough lockers and they have to wear a blazer, so the coat needs to be carried around all day along with everything else. My daughter is wearing a coat at the moment but it has to get to sub zero temperatures for it to be worth the hassle of having to cart it around all day along with all books, folders, artwork etc

UnbearableLoss · 23/01/2023 22:04

Hadn't thought about it so seems crazy looking back but no one wore coats at my school. It was a school rule because the headteacher was obsessed with the blazer being on show when you were on school grounds. And the blazer was a horrible stiff itchy material so it would have been impossible to fold into a bag. Especially since ugly bowling bags were popular.

I remember the same problem in summer - stifling weather but couldn't take the blazer off.

OnTheRunWithMannyMontana · 23/01/2023 22:04

TenThousandSpoons · 23/01/2023 22:02

My dd hardly ever wore a coat in year 7 and 8. Now in year 9 she wears it. She’s also switched to a practical rucksack instead of the handbag she was using as a school bag a year ago. So I think more concerned with comfort/practicalities now that she’s a very grown up 14 year old 😆

Mine has done this too. 2 years of impractical handbag style bags and this year she is finally using a decent waterproof rucksack. I breathed a huge sigh of relief when she asked for it. There's only so many times you can dry out a maths workbook on top of the radiator before you start to lose the will to live...

HavfrueDenizKisi · 23/01/2023 22:07

Leffeandolives · 23/01/2023 21:48

Omg, this is absolutely crazy! Was it like that forever when you were kids too or is this a modern thing?

This has to do with their health & safety though, their teachers should make them wear coats!

I mean imagine if they decide to turn up to school without shoes one day, just because it's cool. It's nonsense....

And they are still kids, not adults. Surely parents should be more strict? No? What do you think?

Ha ha ha ha 😂

Teachers should make them wear coats. Yeah right! As a parent I can't manage it with my teenagers so fucking good luck to any teacher who tries.

Good luck with yours OP - clearly you'll be the only parent of a teenager that can crack this one and we can all take lessons from you.

bert3400 · 23/01/2023 22:07

My son wears a coat and also doesn't wear a blazer. Never been an issue ...infact as it warms up in March ( not in UK) we have to prise it off him - could be 25c and he still wants to wear it 🙄

SockQueen · 23/01/2023 22:15

I'm 38 and I never wore a coat in secondary school. I wasn't even one of the cool kids. It just wasn't done, especially among the girls.

However: -
1)We did have blazers, and could wear woollen jumpers underneath over our school shirts. We also did wear (hugely itchy) woollen scarves and most had gloves.
2)Most of us didn't walk to school, and we had break time indoors in common rooms (private school with pupils either boarding or travelling in from several different towns), so we were mostly only actually outside for 5-10 mins at a time walking between lessons. Obviously still had to do hockey/netball/cross country in the snow/rain/gales etc too, but you wouldn't wear a coat for that anyway!

I don't remember ever getting really dangerously cold due to lack of coat. Can't really remember what we did when it rained much either.

I see quite a lot of local secondary kids walking home and they're mainly wearing coats at the moment. I might be able to see the girls' bum cheeks (in tights) because their skirts are rolled up so high, but they have a coat on!

Idlechitchat · 23/01/2023 22:16

Apparently it’s embarrassing to wear a coat to school if you’re a teenager 😆. Also at our school no coats are allowed to be worn inside and kids don’t want to carry them around all day.

UnclearNuclear · 23/01/2023 22:18

Mine have all worn coats to school.

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