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11+ independent school admissons - feeling sick

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thefuturesnotourstosee · 16/11/2022 12:56

Sorry this is really long I guess I just want someone to tell me it will all be OK and I'm over reacting - I'm trying to not stress as obviously DS will get a state school offer so he'll be going SOMEWHERE - it's just our catchment school has police officers based there, metal detectors on the door, horrifying exam results and a reputation for drugs - I know some mumsnetters will critise me for not wanting him to go and say he should learn about real life - but I don't want him there Sad I've not put it on the form in the hope of getting lucky elsewhere but others are out of catchment, hugely over subscribed and / or Catholic which we're not.

DS has SEN and gets 25% extra time in some exams and use of a laptop.

Despite SEN DS is actually fairly bright particularly at maths but his English is not nearly so good. He's currently in an independent prep. His head teacher advised that locally there were 2 schools he'd probably get scholarships for - they are usually back up choices. He also suggested we applied for one very high ranking school to see what happened and a couple of others DS may have a chance at.

Results so far are that the school we least wanted have offered him a scholarship. The other "back up" school which was our preferred choice have just come back and said following entrance exam they want their Senco to talk to the senco at his current school. I can't even think why they want this conversation and feel sick to the core - we know he's not got a scholarship as it's gone to his best friend but that's OK as long as he gets a place :(

He passed the 11+ but not with a good enough score to be likely to get into our local grammar which is hugely over subscribed.

The high ranking school which we'd love him to go to but are realistic about his chances have surprisingly called him in for a borderline interview for his English which I suppose is good news of a sort but just another stress for him. They said he's fine with maths. However the fact he's hit even the borderline on his weak spot is phenomenal - they had 720 applications for 90 places!

Of the other 2 one has sent a really strange email saying that they need him to come in and do another exam - but they've not given any explanation as to why or what it is Confused The other sent an email before the exams which basically says they aren't set up for SEN and would like to refund the registration fees. I'm not even sure that this is legal but with that attitude would not want him there anyway.

So unless he really pulls it out of the bag at interview or the mystery "extra" exam, we're likely to be left with either our least preferred independent or a local state with a reputation for knives, gangs and drugs.

Sorry this is so long - well done if you've read this far. I just feel so sick that DS is so held back by problems that he has no control over and I suppose I just wanted to rant.

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BecauseICan22 · 16/11/2022 13:06

What are your DS's thoughts in all of this?

Twilightstarbright · 16/11/2022 13:17

The SENCOs chatting will be making sure they can support your DS. Not a bad thing at all.

thefuturesnotourstosee · 16/11/2022 13:23

Good question

DS would love to go to "high ranking school" he said he felt at home there when we went to open evening

Otherwise, he likes back up school number 2

Thankfully not at all taken with the one that does not take SEN (amazed theyve dared put that in writing!!) and he hasn't done the exam anyway as it's not for a few weeks

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Luluthecat · 16/11/2022 13:26

have been through the same a couple of years ago with a SEN child it is a lot more stressful than a standard 11+. My DS would school refuse if he went to our very large local comp. Some schools give really good Sen support for English DS has come on leaps and bounds but it will always be weaker than his maths. This is normal for boys in general anyway and more of the case for Sen boys.

Just take one step at a time, tell your DS that each time he goes in it’s an opportunity to see if HE likes the school. Be upbeat, it will be over soon. Big up the back up, I maybe did this a bit too much!

Lindy2 · 16/11/2022 13:29

You've got a place at one of the schools you chose. OK, it was your back up choice, other than the state school, but it is one of your choices.

Anything extra that you're offered now is a bonus place surely?

CloudPop · 16/11/2022 13:32

The other sent an email before the exams which basically says they aren't set up for SEN and would like to refund the registration fees. I'm not even sure that this is legal but with that attitude would not want him there anyway.

I think that's pretty reasonable of them? If they aren't setup for SEN then they aren't. May as well say it at the outset rather than make up an excuse for not offering him a place.

PrimrosesandPears · 16/11/2022 13:40

If he has a place and a scholarship before you’ve got all the offers in across private and state then you are in a relatively good position no? I’m sure it is more stressful with a child with SEN but it sounds like your DS is doing really well with application processes and you can be sure of a place at (at least) one school you liked and hopefully more.

LIZS · 16/11/2022 13:46

I'm confused. You applied to 3 schools. One said no due to SEN, one has offered a scholarship but was your least favourite, one has called him back for further assessment as borderline, another wants to liaise re. SEN... that sounds like more than 3

thefuturesnotourstosee · 16/11/2022 13:58

Thank you all of you. I am really proud of him, he's trying so hard and achieving so much. I feel as if I underestimated him and he's capable of more than I gave him credit for but I'm just so confused by some of the slightly bizarre responses I've received.

@Luluthecat Thanks for understanding. You're right, 11+ with SEN is a huge extra complication not least because there's more paperwork, more confusion and more barriers. I'm bigging up the back up all I can - trouble is I thought he'd get into number 2 which I suppose he still might so I've been bigging up the wrong one Blush

@LIZS

2 back up schools - 1 scholarship, 1 speaking to senco
1 high ranker - borderline interview
2 others he may have a chance with - one mystery exam, one outright rejection due to SEN

So 5 schools

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cyclamenqueen · 16/11/2022 13:59

As someone with two children with SeN at different ends of the academic spectrum and independently educated I think it’s a good sign that they are asking for further info more meetings and chats with SEnco at current school. It shows that they are taking his needs seriously and want to make sure that they can meet them . An initial scholarship might be great but not if after a year they say they can’t meet his needs.

the number one aim is to find a school where both he and you can feel safe and supported and where your ds can thrive. The teenage years are difficult so making the right choice from both sides is important . Deep breaths, it’s a super stressful time but it sounds like you are actually in a good place with several possible options

thefuturesnotourstosee · 23/11/2022 08:54

@cyclamenqueen thank you I think you're right that it's good they're getting more information. Having done so though backup school 2 now asking DS to come in for 2 taster days (.I assume assessment days) before they'll offer him a place.

Borderline interview coming up on Saturday. They've also spoken to SENco at DSs school. One of the things.we really liked about "high ranker" when we visited was that they had a huge learning support suite with dedicated staff as they recognised that some children may need help in different areas at different times. They even had a sensory room and a therapy dog twice a week. They said that even the brightest pupils without SEN needed extra help or support / time out from time to time. I am crossing everything for him to get in.

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Icedlatteplease · 23/11/2022 09:05

Might be totally out of place so feel free to ignore but Does you DS have an EHCP? Have you considered looking further afield for a more specialised placement? Eg Frewen college for dyslexia

Hersetta427 · 23/11/2022 12:00

You have a school place and a scholarship at an independant school. You are massively over reacting saying you feel sick. Anything else he gets is surely a bonus as you have what you wanted, a place somewhere that is not the awful local comp. You realise that most people have no choice?

thefuturesnotourstosee · 23/11/2022 12:48

@Hersetta427 You speak sense of course - and yes we're extremely lucky to have a choice - you've probably given me the mental shake I need thank you for being so blunt.

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Hersetta427 · 23/11/2022 12:57

Thanks for taking it so well. A good dollop of perspective is what is needed.

thefuturesnotourstosee · 23/11/2022 14:01

Of course it is.

I think the real thing making me sick is seeing the obstacles being put in front of him just because he has SEN. It's very difficult to take an objective view when it's your own DC - foolish but true

We've got friends whose children go to local comp - all they want to do is get out of it. I feel sorry for those stuck with it whether they like it or not and a bit of me is guilty for feeling as I do - very conflicting. The staff turnover is apparently huge and honestly its not really that surprising. It's very undersubscribed and kids end up being "dumped" in it from all over the place. Horrible cycle 😢

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