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Reddam House transgender students

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Bob12345678 · 03/10/2022 09:39

Good morning all.
Very impressed by Reddam House following an open day viewing.
Witnessed at least 2 students who appeared to be wearing clothes different to their birth sex.
Do any existing parents know how this works for sports changing rooms and boarding?
Thank you

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TeenDivided · 03/10/2022 11:19

Your best bet would be to ask the school, its a fair enough question and any school who were unhappy being asked would be off my list (especially as a boarding school).

Note it isn't just sports changing rooms and boarding houses, it would be toilets and actual sports activities which at secondary are normally single sex for any contact sport.

Plus of course what the school is teaching about gender v sex.

Also check equality policy conforms to law.

Tralalalalalalalalalala · 03/10/2022 11:31

@Bob12345678 Why does that impress you? It would scare me if they are allowing children to be brain-washed by a new religion. I would also be very worried about the boy's trying to access girl's single sex spaces.

Talipesmum · 03/10/2022 11:38

Tralalalalalalalalalala · 03/10/2022 11:31

@Bob12345678 Why does that impress you? It would scare me if they are allowing children to be brain-washed by a new religion. I would also be very worried about the boy's trying to access girl's single sex spaces.

OP didn’t say that this is what impressed them.
Nothing wrong with people wearing clothes “different to their birth sex” - people should be able to wear whatever they like, as long as it’s appropriate to the situation (school uniform at school etc).
I imagine the OP would like to know if “wearing the clothes typically associated with opposite birth sex” is conflated with “allowed to change in same room as people of opposite birth sex” etc. These things should be entirely different imo.

Bob12345678 · 03/10/2022 12:18

@Talipesmum spot on. I've no issues with the clothing but I want it clarified how things work in changing rooms, boarding, toilets....
Any Reddam parents know how the school manages these situations?

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Bob12345678 · 03/10/2022 12:28

@TeenDivided if there is no sensible consideration for majority students it's a no from me too.
Possibly over-sensitive but discovered the English curriculum had decided to remove Harry Potter in favour of a book dealing with racism. Sounds noble but I wonder if there is an issue with JK Rowling in particular. And if so, what is it particularly about JK Rowling?
Would help if Reddam parents could clarify.
Thank you all.

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TeenDivided · 03/10/2022 14:48

I'm surprised that HP was on the curriculum at all actually. Smashing good read but not 'literary'.

Tralalalalalalalalalala · 03/10/2022 16:50

Talipesmum · 03/10/2022 11:38

OP didn’t say that this is what impressed them.
Nothing wrong with people wearing clothes “different to their birth sex” - people should be able to wear whatever they like, as long as it’s appropriate to the situation (school uniform at school etc).
I imagine the OP would like to know if “wearing the clothes typically associated with opposite birth sex” is conflated with “allowed to change in same room as people of opposite birth sex” etc. These things should be entirely different imo.

@Talipesmum No they should not be allowed to wear clothes "different to their sex". They are children. They are children going to school. Boys cannot wear skirts or bras or females underwear. Think about eh.

Talipesmum · 03/10/2022 17:05

I don’t think school uniform guides usually specify underwear.

TeenDivided · 03/10/2022 18:25

@Tralalalalalalalalalala On the other hand you could argue it is just stereotypes that say things like 'boys don't wear skirts'. Schools don't need to have uniform rules by sex. They could easily say trousers or kilt, your choice. Many state schools are removing sex based school uniforms where they are unnecessary.

(e.g. Some schools didn't used to let boys have long hair or have pierced ears, or they didn't let girls wear trousers. These days these are generally allowed, but boys in skirts/kilts are still much less commonly permitted.)

Testina · 03/10/2022 18:25

Why would you not ask the school? 🤔

Curioushorse · 03/10/2022 18:37

I'd echo others in asking the school, BUT, my experience is that generally the boarding schools have a much easier time with transgender issues than other schools. Generally they have 'more' toilets than most schools, so the boarding schools in the Reddam House area have found it very easy to dedicate third gender toilets (I don't know Reddam House, but know some others nearby). It's been a complete non-issue.

You may find the kids you mention are not boarding- but, if they are, again, it tends to be a much easier problem to deal with than in other schools. Boarding numbers are dropping hugely across the country. Most old boarding schools have loads of rooms free. The schools I know had boarding with houses with the communal areas being mixed, but separate sleeping areas for boys and girls. It was really easy to just separate off a third gender corridor.

I'd ignore the Harry Potter issue. Removing it is actually a very good idea. Yes, it's a fun text- but it's a pretty rubbish teaching text.

Bob12345678 · 03/10/2022 18:37

@Testina Because I believe parents are more likely to give me a straightforward and honest answer.
Are you able to provide any helpful advice?

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Bob12345678 · 03/10/2022 18:40

@Curioushorse thank you for taking the time to answer. Really helpful.

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TeenDivided · 03/10/2022 18:48

As an addendum to Curious schools, would need sleeping areas for not just a 'third gender' but presumably also a 'fourth gender': boys, girls, transboys, transgirls. You can't put transboys and transgirls together as that would be mixed sex and break basic safeguarding in a secondary age school.
Or of course just say policy is to separate by sex and be done with it.

Bob12345678 · 03/10/2022 19:37

@TeenDivided it had already crossed my mind that a 4th gender set up, possibly more, would be necessary.
This, of course, may not be an issue at Reddam.

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WayDownInTheHole · 03/10/2022 21:25

Bob12345678 · 03/10/2022 12:28

@TeenDivided if there is no sensible consideration for majority students it's a no from me too.
Possibly over-sensitive but discovered the English curriculum had decided to remove Harry Potter in favour of a book dealing with racism. Sounds noble but I wonder if there is an issue with JK Rowling in particular. And if so, what is it particularly about JK Rowling?
Would help if Reddam parents could clarify.
Thank you all.

This all feels a bit like a fishing expedition from someone looking to make trouble for a school. I'd be very careful of feeding the fire here.

WayDownInTheHole · 03/10/2022 21:25

And Harry Potter really shouldn't be on any school's curriculum. Good on them for ditching it.

Bob12345678 · 03/10/2022 21:57

WayDownInTheHole · 03/10/2022 21:25

This all feels a bit like a fishing expedition from someone looking to make trouble for a school. I'd be very careful of feeding the fire here.

It's not a conspiracy 🤣. Just a question which some have been kind enough to answer.

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Daniella100 · 17/01/2024 00:16

My girls are at Reddam South Africa - thankfully the damaging Transgender LGBT ideology has not been introduced at the school - I had a thought to move b al to the UK but not to Reddam Uk if they are promoting this nonsense

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