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Secondary School Parent Assault

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kelsskool · 21/09/2022 11:24

Name change as this incident is the talk of our local town which is a small agricultural village where everyone knows of everyone.
There has been an incident in our local secondary school where a mother stormed into the school canteen and verbally abused a school boy.
Apparently the mothers child had been getting bullied by the boy and he text his mum from the school and she stormed in to confront him.
One of the other pupils recorded it and it's gone viral locally and I am really concerned about safety within the school, I don't know this woman but I've can see she's enraged to the point of unhinged, jabbing the young lad with her finger and saying that 'if you want to sort this out then let's go outside' extremely threatening, she was shortly escorted out by four members of staff. I've since heard various concerning aspects of this woman's personality and that of her husband's but the most worrying is that they are both in charge of a local pheasant shoot and have guns!!!!
I have a pupil at this school and although they didn't see the argument I'm concerned about school safety. Would this like have been stopped in a school with adequate safety measures and if so should the school be held accountable for this massive safety breach?

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XelaM · 21/09/2022 11:30

Maybe the "you g lad" shouldn't be a bully! Bullying destroys lives. No wonder the mother was enraged. Schools usually do nothing to protect bullied children.

blimeymcblimey · 21/09/2022 11:31

Just support the school. They will be reviewing their security, but don't need other angry parents raising the temperature even further.

Nidan2Sandan · 21/09/2022 11:32

Perhaps everyone should take it up with the bullies parents so the family dont need to go off on the deep end to protect their child.

kelsskool · 21/09/2022 11:34

Agreed that bullying is abhorrent but we don't actually know either side of the childrens stories and I have heard that they are both as bad as each other

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3WildOnes · 21/09/2022 11:35

I would be assuming that the boy who was threatened was a bully. Just because one person said it doesn't make it true.

TeenDivided · 21/09/2022 11:41

We don't have high secure school secondary sites like the US.
So yes probably anyone can come on to site.
This sounds highly unusual.

kelsskool · 21/09/2022 11:43

TeenDivided · 21/09/2022 11:41

We don't have high secure school secondary sites like the US.
So yes probably anyone can come on to site.
This sounds highly unusual.

I suppose the reason the schools in the USA are high security is because of gun laws. Just unsettling these people have guns too

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abovedecknotbelow · 21/09/2022 11:46

All the schools around here are secure. You can't just walk in.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 21/09/2022 11:49

That's absolutely a worrying security breach - they can happen when a parent is absolutely determined and it's almost certain that the management are urgently looking at what went wrong and how to prevent it ever happening again.

You could contact the governors to ensure it is being discussed.

I'd also be thinking of contacting the local police in respect of the gun licensing. Whether they do anything about it or not, they can't if they don't know.

kewinsurreylass · 21/09/2022 11:50

If someone did that to my kid Hubby would certainly tell the kid what would happen if he continued
The only way to treat a bully is to give it back

TeenDivided · 21/09/2022 11:53

abovedecknotbelow · 21/09/2022 11:46

All the schools around here are secure. You can't just walk in.

That's interesting. Our primary sites in out town are pretty secure, but that is more about keeping children safe from wandering off.

Our 2 secondary schools both have has a number of separate blocks, so I could walk into site via the footpath or car entrance and go to any block & walk in. I of course should be challenged by any adult (or student I guess) if I'm not wearing a visitors pass.

Hoppinggreen · 21/09/2022 11:54

My DD was accused of bullying aged 6 by the parent of a well known bully when she said she was happy to play with her but not to the exclusion of all her friends.
She was confronted in the playground by this woman, luckily I was there and dealt with it.
So dont assume there was any bullying unless you have more information.

As for being able to access the school like that that IS certainly a safeguarding issue which hopefully school will deal with

Christmascaroll · 21/09/2022 12:08

abovedecknotbelow · 21/09/2022 11:46

All the schools around here are secure. You can't just walk in.

Same here. Automatic gates locked at start of school day. Nobody in/ out till end of school without being buzzed I by reception.

Ilovetocrochet · 21/09/2022 12:11

I’ve taught in three different secondary schools and in none of them can someone get in without permission. The entrance door opened into a reception area where people signed in and given a badge. The door from this area into the main building opened with either a key pad or key card so visitors had to be let into the school itself. Many of these measures came after the Dunblane incident. All other entrances to school buildings were locked so only staff could use them.

I imagine the school will be reviewing its policies to see how this woman got it to prevent it happening again.

CrapBucket · 21/09/2022 12:15

All high schools in my town have fences and security gates. The only way in is getting buzzed in, which the offices are pretty prompt and welcoming at doing. I assume it would be quite easy to say you e.g. 'have an appointment with a teacher' and they'd buzz you through rather than check from a list of expected visitors.

TeenDivided · 21/09/2022 12:16

I'm genuinely surprised. At these 'secure' schools are older kids allowed off the premises at lunch?

AgnestaVipers · 21/09/2022 12:19

Extraordinary that she was able to just barge in. School security is usually very tight.

CrapBucket · 21/09/2022 12:20

TeenDivided · 21/09/2022 12:16

I'm genuinely surprised. At these 'secure' schools are older kids allowed off the premises at lunch?

Nope. Not even 6th form at many of them

TeenDivided · 21/09/2022 12:24

CrapBucket · 21/09/2022 12:20

Nope. Not even 6th form at many of them

Prefects (end y10, then y11) allowed offsite at DD's old school at lunch. Then gigantic colleges, everyone has passes but come and go from the college site as they please.

LongLivedQueen · 21/09/2022 12:26

TeenDivided · 21/09/2022 12:16

I'm genuinely surprised. At these 'secure' schools are older kids allowed off the premises at lunch?

No.

OP, how is shouting "assault"?

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 21/09/2022 12:44

I thought all schools were secure these days. DD's primary was like Fort Knox and secondary is very secure.

Definitely nobody allowed offsite without a permission slip to get through the gates.

PineappleWilson · 21/09/2022 12:49

DS' secondary school has high fencing around it and you have to be let through the gate by reception. Its sister school had to tighten its security as people could get straight into reception from the road but not beyond (they got anti-covid vax protesters barging into reception). I'm amazed this parent got as far as the lunch queue. The school needs to beef up its security measures. The DC may be a bully but what if she'd walked in and just punched him, or got the wrong person.

If anything this is a good demonstration of why phones shouldn't be in schools. This should have been raised through the form tutors or head of year, not by a vigilante parent.

MossGrowsFat · 21/09/2022 12:49

Local senior school not secure at all, massive campus like site not realistically possible.

puttingontheritz · 21/09/2022 12:54

LongLivedQueen · 21/09/2022 12:26

No.

OP, how is shouting "assault"?

Jabbing is assault, wouldn't you say?

ThanksItHasPockets · 21/09/2022 12:56

It shouldn't be possible for an unauthorised adult to access a space like the canteen and I'd have questions about security.