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Timing return to UK

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Notcreativeatall · 19/09/2022 06:47

i am currently living overseas with my 12 year old son. We have been trying to plan our return to the UK ( i have some flexibility as i will just transfer internally with my existing job). I am struggling with the best timing. If we were in the UK now he would be in year 8.
I was looking at getting back for Year 9 but am not sure if would be feasible both for work reasons but also because we 'd effectively have to apply now i think and prove where we'd be (the problem is I don't want to commit to coming back unless I know he can get in a school!)
Is it absolutely dreadful to come back for year 10 - i think possibly as i don't know how they would place him in the right classes? we also aren't doing the UK curriculum here. Is in year entry eg mid year 9 a nightmare?
We would probably be in Surrey - we've always been state school but i'm not sure if private school would be easier.
Has anyone done this?

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Firenze12 · 19/09/2022 07:36

The problem you may find is that lots of state schools start their GCSE courses in year 9. So yes year 10 would be a tricky time to start.
Private schools should be more flexible yes.
I would suggest speaking to the local council and private school in the area you think you would move to.
Good luck!

Nutellanjam · 19/09/2022 07:43

We have faced this problem when we’ve considered this in recent years, For us, the closest schools in the area we would be moving back to would all have been full in the year group, with a waiting list, which would have meant a place further away where there was space.
Also I believe you can’t apply until you are actually living in your uk address with bills etc so you have to completely move before you know about school

stillsmilingtoday · 19/09/2022 07:52

Sorry to say this but it’s a complete nightmare trying to move a kid in y10 (in our area at least) to a good state school or private school. I imagine surrey will be the same. No room at all unless applied for a year in advance.

Lots of schools including private start the GCSE curriculum in y9 so won’t accept kids in y10 at all and/or kids don’t move so the waiting list is static.

You. might find that you can go on waiting lists from abroad for private schools but for state schools you will need a U.K. address before you can apply. Some people rent flats so they have this (not saying I agree with it!)

Your best bet is to phone the schools that you are interested and establish what hoops you will need to jump through to get your child in and take it from there.

PizzaFunghi · 19/09/2022 08:55

I think many schools are moving away from really starting GCSEs in year 9. There used to be several in this area, and now I know of only one that does. So it may be less of a problem than you think.

Also, sometimes 'starting GCSEs' in Year 9 isn't very different from what schools who don't start then do - it can mean just choosing options and giving some subjects up, and spending a bit more time on the chosen ones. But the actual work being done in maths, science, English etc is often quite similar, as they are learning skills that will be needed, or introductory facts to eg. chemistry, which would have to be learned at that stage of learning, whether it's called GCSE or not. Other subjects might start a bit more on the content, so that could take more catching up, and of course if they are already in the timetable and classes for GCSE, it could restrict the choices of someone coming in. But on the whole, starting in Year 10 around here wouldn't be a disaster, even in those schools that do include Year 9 as a GCSE year. Other areas might be different.

Not all schools set much for Year 7-9. And they might be able to get an idea from his previous work and reports as to what sets they think would be suitable - he could still move up or down in the first few weeks as they get to know him. Maths and science would be the bigger challenge - even if he's not in the right set to start with, it would be better if they knew whether he was likeliy to be heading for Foundation or Higher tiers, as those do start to teach quite different content. But even then, Year 10 isn't impossible to move from one to the other, especially if he's willing to work to catch-up in things that he has the ability, but might have studied different content.

You don't need to apply in the next few weeks in you are looking a in-year admission for Year 9 for next September. The end-Oct deadline is for those applying to start secondary school. You could move back and apply towards the end of this academic year for a place in Year 9 at the start of next academic year. I think you'd have to have moved back by then though. And that would also be the case for mid-year admission. If you're joining a school at a non-standard entry point, it's a similar process whenever you join it - start of school year or another time. it will just come down to which school has any places available in his year group. But you could start looking at schools now and then closer to the time find out which of the schools you like have places. Obviously start of school year probably makes life easier for him, and perhaps there would be more likely to be places available, given that other people also might be moving over the summer etc. Admissions-wise, though, it doesn't make a difference whether it's Sept or April, for an in-year admission. This is for standard state schools in England, starting in Year 7.

A private school would have a totally different admissions process, and you'd have to talk to them separately. They might allow him to go out-of-year, as well, if that's something you wanted, depending how the school systems fit together from where you are now, and here.

Sounds like you should start looking at schools and talking to them about the process, whether state or private, when they start GCSE, how they set, how many choices etc. It's quite possible to come mid Year -9 for the purposes of getting him settled and the school getting to know them.

TizerorFizz · 19/09/2022 09:04

If he’s not done the uk curriculum he might be down a year in a private school. I would talk to some of them. He’s going to struggle a bit anywhere. However private schools have more flexibility on when DC join a school and in what year. It’s not ideal socially to be in the wrong year but it might be better educationally. State schools resist this.,

Houseplantmad · 19/09/2022 09:14

At the school I work out year 10 hasn’t been open for admissions for several years as all the options blocks have been at capacity. Try to move as early as possible in year 9 to give yourself the best choice of schools.

doodleandsketch · 27/09/2022 10:46

We have just moved back to Surrey after being overseas 11 years. My DD has just started Y7 and DS Y9. I made the decision to come back a year earlier than my husband as Y10 wouldn't have been the right decision for us. We went private. My DS sat 11+ remotely and did well, but it was much harder for my son to sit 13+ as most schools were full and they wouldn't consider him. It was quite disheartening. KGS let him sit the 13+ but honestly it was so difficult at that level that he didn't make it through to interview. They only have about 15 places at that age group. He had an interview for Claremont Fan Court school and I think they would have offered him a place if we had accepted the offer for my daughter, but it wasn't the school she wanted. He sat for Cranmore and he was offered a place. It is further away, but there is a bus and he is happy. It has only been 3 weeks, but so happy we made the decision now and not next year as I do believe it would have been even more difficult to get him into a school and much harder transition for him. Hope that helps.

Notcreativeatall · 30/09/2022 06:19

I'm more and more convinced that we have to go back for the beginning of year 9 - or at least within the year. I think DP thinks i'm over egging it...

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bairhand · 30/09/2022 06:50

Be aware that if you're looking at a private school, a lot of them will offer their Year 9 places in Year 7 or even Year 6, so you might find yourself on waiting lists unless the school is undersubscribed (which is perhaps not a good sign....).

TizerorFizz · 30/09/2022 09:30

Only a few offer so early. There will be others who will take DC later. The best bet might be the lower tariff schools anyway if DC is not ready to hit he ground running due to curriculum issues. You might as well be realistic.

FirstAidKitNowPlease · 30/09/2022 09:34

Start of year 9 will give your child a much better chance of being settled before kicking off core GCSE courses.

I'm sorry your challenged by H who doesn't get the importance of getting this timing right.

maranella · 30/09/2022 09:37

You need to move this year OP - and I say that as a parent with a DC who's just started Y10. The reason is that DC pick their GCSEs in Y9. My DS picked his in Feb of Y9 and the content of those courses started to be taught in the latter part of Y9. Moving during Y7 and Y8 is fine, but you need to start him at his new school at the start of Y9. There is a fair amount of movement around that stage so he won't be the only one starting at 13+, but please don't leave it any later, or it will be really tricky for him.

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