So I will be applying in October for a secondary school place for my child. Its fairly simple if he gets a grammar place. Its if he doesn't that it gets complicated. Would be advised to still put a grammar first, and then appeal for it which constitutes your grammar appeal. But the secondary moderns I would choose would neither of them be dead certs. So I would potentially want to appeal for them also. The good secondary modern in our town we are too far from. The nearest one doesn't have good results at all. The two I am thinking of putting down are not local but based on the information I have would have a decent chance of being offered a place, just not certain. We are in Kent and only allowed 4 choices and also Kent doesn't publish information on last distance offered.