Page 5 | Teen injured by classmate in lesson

ImStillMe · 2022-03-18T18:18:05+00:00

If a classmate seriously injured a fellow student during a lesson , whilst the teacher went to get a resource, what process should the school follow after the incident?

Hercisback · 19/03/2022 22:04

I just think it's a teensy hypocritical when in one post there's loads of teachers wailing about how important it is to never ever ever forget a pen.

The kid who forgets their pen a couple of times a year isn't a problem. The kid turning up daily without one is an issue. The same applies to teachers and worksheets.

If a child did get injured there would be questions asked. However it's not illegal to leave teenagers in a classroom for 30 seconds to grab a worksheet. Some posters are acting like it is.

MrsHamlet · 19/03/2022 22:08

Bob doesn't have a pen. I give him another pen from the stash I keep in my desk. In a week, he gets 5 because he never has one.
Bob doesn't have his book. So he doesn't have his sheet. I've already given out all the spare copies - several of them to Bob - so I have to print another on the printer down the hall.
I'm not making a big deal about pens or sheets. I'm just making sure Bob and buddies can access the work.

MiniDaffodils · 19/03/2022 23:13

Poor teachers. Parents blame them for everything nowadays. Poor behaviour is usually down to parenting.

AnnesBrokenSlate · 20/03/2022 00:33

It's ironic that some posters jumping to defend the teacher are automatically blaming the other teen. It's likely neither of them were at fault. The teacher left the class because they had to and the other teen accidentally hurt OP's DC because they were messing about. It happens.

Our DC was hurt in very similar circumstances. YY the school punished the teen involved because the teen had been reckless. But it wasn't malicious and there's no way we'd have blamed the teacher. Sometimes there aren't 'lessons to be learnt' except that teens can be silly and reckless and teachers can't be everywhere at once.

AnnesBrokenSlate · 20/03/2022 00:37

As for process - when it happened in our school, our DC was sent to the school nurse. The other teen was pulled out of class and sent to the HOY. We were called to collect DC and take for additional treatment. HOY also called the other teen's parents to inform them what had happened. I don't know if the other teen was given a temporary exclusion or not. It wasn't my priority. HOY also called us again later that evening to check in and see how our teen was.

NinaDefoe · 20/03/2022 07:30

I just think it's a teensy hypocritical when in one post there's loads of teachers wailing about how important it is to never ever ever forget a pen.

I can’t see loads of posts saying that.
I always forget to bring a pen to meetings and I always lend pens/pencils to students.
Some children manage to get themselves up, out of their chaotic house and into school with zero parental help. The least I can do is lend them a pen.

NinaDefoe · 20/03/2022 07:34

Our DC was hurt in very similar circumstances.

The OP hasn’t told us the circumstances ! Only that the teacher was out of the room and child A was hurt by child B.

iklboo · 20/03/2022 12:36

It's ironic that some posters jumping to defend the teacher are automatically blaming the other teen. It's likely neither of them were at fault. The teacher left the class because they had to and the other teen accidentally hurt OP's DC because they were messing about. It happens.

How do you know that? The OP has provided absolutely no details.

AnnesBrokenSlate · 20/03/2022 20:14

The OP provided the detail that the teacher had to leave the class and that the other teen would say it was an accident but they weren't being sensible. Direct quotes from OP's posts below:
the teacher left to get a resource
and:
Perpetrator will say it's an accident although the act which caused the serious injury certainly wasn't a sensible action

converseandjeans · 20/03/2022 20:24

Trying not to be outing, but is it acceptable for the teacher to be absent to get something?

Well it sounds like you've decided it's the teachers fault!

I got told off recently for leaving a tiny class of students to photocopy something that they kept asking me for. Someone from SLT was doing learning walks & even though it wasn't my observation I still got told off.

I don't know if the assault you mentioned would have happened if the teacher was in the room. The teacher may not necessarily have seen it they were sorting something out or helping another student.

Original poster

ImStillMe · 20/03/2022 21:55

My concern is the long term impact of the significant injury.

Nothing will happen to the teacher for not supervising them, nor the student who carried out the injury.

But the child, a young teen, is seriously impacted by the nature of the injury.

It's the impact that is important, not the intention.

OP posts:

Mistressiggi · 20/03/2022 23:48

For a significant injury with long term impact on the child, you would expect there to be an investigation.
Though punishing anyone won't help the injured party, unless there is a potential injury claim to be made.

lanthanum · 20/03/2022 23:57

@ImStillMe

My concern is the long term impact of the significant injury.

Nothing will happen to the teacher for not supervising them, nor the student who carried out the injury.

But the child, a young teen, is seriously impacted by the nature of the injury.

It's the impact that is important, not the intention.

Nothing that happens to the teacher or the other student will make any difference to the long term impact. The school's public liability insurance presumably might.

Porcupineintherough · 21/03/2022 07:33

At secondary level children can be left unsupervised in a classroom for a few minutes. That's a reasonable action on behalf of the teacher.

itrytomakemyway · 21/03/2022 08:09

What do you want to happen to the teacher?

Do you honestly believe that it is NEVER acceptable for a teacher to leave the room? What should I have done - bled all over the back of my skirt, thrown up or peed in the waste bin, left the supply teacher next door on her own to deal with a kid who was climbing on top of the cupboards?

stormsurfer · 21/03/2022 10:54

Please can you tell us what the injury was and how it happened?

Even with the teacher in the class things can go wrong very quickly with teenagers.

Hercisback · 21/03/2022 12:43

Unfortunately I have been in a classroom where a child did get pretty horrific injuries. The child was the only one hurt and they inflicted the injury on themselves. Even with a teacher present, it doesn't mean these things won't happen.

I hope your child recovers.

converseandjeans · 21/03/2022 22:41

What was the injury? How did it happen?

viques · 22/03/2022 13:20

What are you concerned with OP, the long term effect of the injury or the significant loss of learning time. You have stated both as apparently your prime concern. Are you trying to work out which will get you the biggest compensation payout or something? Personally speaking I would go for long term injury. Unless the child has been hospitalised in an induced coma for months (which you didn’t mention ) most lost learning time would be fairly easy to catch up with.