my child at school app.

[VelvetChairGirl]

Looking at Behaviour on the app today

it says event: truancy (god knows what that means I assume he missed that class, thats not what I call truancy).

but at the bottom it says action: IE what does IE mean? does anyone know?

no theres not sensory issues, he is suspected aspergers but not diagnosed.

I talked to the local authority last year and they talked to the school its mainly about the interventions on the EHCP.

No one has said anything to me about travel help, I take him on the tube everyday, I am unemployed.

If he is missing a class then it is truancy unless he was in another class. That is easily dealt with by asking your ds where he was and then confirming this is true with the teacher.

If he is late because he doesn't register then yes it will be an absence. How sure are you that he is going in on time and staying there?

The fact that this was the only school that would take him suggests there is a massive backstop here.

@cansu

If he is missing a class then it is truancy unless he was in another class. That is easily dealt with by asking your ds where he was and then confirming this is true with the teacher.

If he is late because he doesn't register then yes it will be an absence. How sure are you that he is going in on time and staying there?

The fact that this was the only school that would take him suggests there is a massive backstop here.

yes he has been waiting for a aspergers assessment for 6 years from CAMHs and has anxiety and anger problems.

Asperger Syndrome isn’t generally the diagnosis given now, it is usually all encompassed under ASD/ASC now. If you have been waiting for assessment for 6 years have you chased it up? A diagnosis in itself won’t necessarily change anything, support is based on needs not diagnosis. It sounds like the EHCP isn’t meeting DS’s needs. You can ask for an early review.

It is highly likely from your posts there are sensory differences, they are often part of autism. Has DS had an OT assessment?

If you have already complained to the LA about the interventions in section F not being delivered and they are specified and quantified threaten Judicial review. Usually the threat works but if it doesn’t contact SOSSEN for help with a pre-action letter.

Ask the LA about school transport. If they refuse contact SENTAS who specialise in helping parents with school transport appeals.

he hasnt had any assessments they just keep adding more to the list like adhd when ever they review him. not heard a peep about when he might be assessed since before the pandemic, the SENCO said she'd chase it up but said she cant get through to anyone at CAMHs they never pick up the phone.

can they provide a free or discount oyster card for the tube? I have to pay full price and he pays half on his zip card.

I dont know what OT means

OT is occupational therapy.

Did DS not have assessments as part of the EHCNA? You can request a reassessment of needs, IPSEA have a model letter you can use.

You can chase the ASD assessment yourself, you don’t need to wait for the school to do it.

The form of transport depends on your LA and individual needs.

@Imitatingdory

OT is occupational therapy.

Did DS not have assessments as part of the EHCNA? You can request a reassessment of needs, IPSEA have a model letter you can use.

You can chase the ASD assessment yourself, you don’t need to wait for the school to do it.

The form of transport depends on your LA and individual needs.

there was a woman who went round the school and asked about if he was able to hold a pen and write.

maybe that was it.

If DS had an OT assessment it should be in section K. OT can include sensory assessments too.

It definitely sounds like DS needs some proper, up to date assessments. Either by asking for a reassessment of needs or by asking for an early review, appealing if the EHCP isn’t amended satisfactorily and seeking independent assessments.

SECTION K: Advice and Information Gathered During xxxxx EHC Needs Assessment

theres nothing there but a list of names.

I see the travel expenses thing, I may ask about it if theres any help towards paying tube fares they may say no as he does have a free bus pass

There should be more than a list of names in F. It should include the reports from the assessments. The provision in section F should be taken from the reports. If the reports are vague, woolly or missing completely F will be vague, woolly and missing provision.

Have you read IPSEA and SOSSEN’s websites to learn more about EHCPs?

no F just has lots of things in What is needed to support xxxx, nothing else. theres nothing there about assessments.

the people listed in K are the SENCO, school therapy manager and SAFE team therapist.

No I havn't been on any websites.

I think what your talking about is CAMHs assessments he hasnt had any he is waiting for them and they have tried to kick him off the list twice.

No, I’m not taking about normal CAMHS assessments. I mean the advice that must be sought as part of an EHCNA under Reg 6(1) SEN Regs 2014 e.g. from an EP and it can also include SALT, OT, psychiatrist, clinical psychologist etc. without the need to sit on the normal waiting lists. All the advice sought during the EHCNA should be in K. For example, the EP report should be in K. And the provision in F taken from the reports in K.

It doesn’t sound like the EHCNA was conducted correctly. Without the correct reports the provision in F will not meet DS’s needs and the EHCP won’t be worth the paper it is written on.

Do read IPSEA and SOSSEN’s websites to understand more about EHCPs, what should happen and what support can be provided. Also read the SENCOP if you haven’t already read that.

well its helped him get therapy and stuff in school, which is the main thing. academically he's fine and always been above his age.

But the EHCP is clearly not meeting DS’s needs, he isn’t receiving all the therapies and support he needs, he isn’t even receiving all the provision that is in section F.

Without adequate assessment you/the school may not even know all DS’s needs. It isn’t unusual for hidden needs to be highlighted during a comprehensive needs assessment.

DS needs proper EP, SALT, OT and MH assessments and the EHCP amending.

There is much more to EHCPs than academic support and progress.

@Imitatingdory

But the EHCP is clearly not meeting DS’s needs, he isn’t receiving all the therapies and support he needs, he isn’t even receiving all the provision that is in section F.

Without adequate assessment you/the school may not even know all DS’s needs. It isn’t unusual for hidden needs to be highlighted during a comprehensive needs assessment.

DS needs proper EP, SALT, OT and MH assessments and the EHCP amending.

There is much more to EHCPs than academic support and progress.

well isnt that the point of being on the CAMHs waiting list? my GP said only CAMHs can assess him.

Your GP is wrong, and unlikely to be well versed on SEN law.

No, you do not need to wait for CAMHS. As I said, an EHCNA or reassessment of needs should include seeking advice from, among others, an EP and can include assessments from SALT, OT, psychiatrist, clinical psychologist without the need to sit on the normal CAMHS waiting list. EHCNAs and reassessment of needs are governed by statutory timescales and if the LA or NHS cannot assess within the statutory timescales the LA must commission independent assessments.

Then if SALT, OT, MH therapies or any other provision is specified and quantified in section F it must be provided. You don’t need to sit on waiting lists, if the NHS or LA can’t or won’t provide it in house the LA must commission independent provision.

Can you tell me what all those things are not just there initials please I'll email the SENCO and the lady at the council about them.

and what are the full website addresses for what you was talking about before the help places with info about EHCPs.?

thank you.

EHCNA = education, health and care needs assessment
LA = local authority
EP = Educational psychologist
SALT = speech and language therapy
OT = occupational therapy
MH = mental health

IPSEA website
SOSSEN website

thanks