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What should a year 10 be doing for Uni requirements

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Toadstool93 · 20/02/2022 09:21

Hi All,

I just wondered what my year 10 daughter needs to do to be appealing to university selection.

She is doing dofe, electric guitar (grade 3). I know for uni they need to show positive independent things.

What should she be doing now to prepare her for standing out in a uni application please? I know she is only year 10 but I know they have to prove commitment to things.

Thank you for any help

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Ellmau · 20/02/2022 20:56

Concentrate on her schoolwork.

Additional activities only where relevant to the subject she might want to apply for at uni.

puffyisgood · 20/02/2022 21:21

grades are the currency. I don't think extracurricular stuff is often used even as a tie breaker.

Curiousmouse · 20/02/2022 21:24

Actually some medical schools look for any work experience, rather than "relevant", on the basis that it advantages students with contacts and medical families. Cardiff, for example.

LIZS · 20/02/2022 21:25

If she is thinking of something vocational or competitive then any work experience, online courses, course tasters, relevant volunteering etc will be more valuable than ucas points from extracurriculars.

FrugralMcDougal · 21/02/2022 12:27

It doesn't matter if it doesn't happen in yr10, she will also have 10 weeks off after GCSEs when she has finished her exams. By then she may have an idea of what she wants to do and can make a start.

They are looking for supercurriculars ie interest in a subject area and their foray into learning more. This can be anything from reading, watching YouTube, podcasts, physically exploring places etc. DoE is sold in school as one that makes you stand out, sadly it doesn't because loads of schools do it. On a personal statement it is literally about 2 lines at the end.

The best thing she can do right now is make flash cards or mind maps or any revision notes for her yr10 that she can also use in yr11. Get the best grades possible at GCSE. When she comes to choosing A levels you can always post back here and ask about her choices if you want some opinions on them Wink

Benvolio · 21/02/2022 19:44

Another teacher here. In my long experience, schools are really not the ones telling people that D of E, music grades, tiddlywinks etc matter to high grade tariff universities' admissions teams. At least no-one who knows anything about UCAS would say that. The most clunkingly awful personal statements I see are almost always ghost-written by dad, or less often, mum, under that misapprehension.

D of E, playing in teams etc are wonderful on their own terms, and certainly educational in the broadest, best sense, but they are not an artificial shoe-horn to funnell middle-class kids to uni.

If applicants do mention extra/co curricular activities on a personal statement, they should use them to continue to demonstrate how they are suitable for THIS course not just a random, 'and I play in an orchestra' or whatever. My advice is to make the whole statement at least 80% academic and entirely focused on the subject applied for. You can bring in any life experience to do this, so If applying for Sports Science or Music, then games/violin will be relevant, but you still need to explain why. If you wanted to do Physics, say and are also a keen mountain biker, you could show off knowledge of the mechanics of a bike, say, when writing about the hobby.

What unis do like is evidence of supra-curricular learning, ie going beyond the syllabus academically. They will quite reasonably expect kids from more privileged backgrounds to show more academic independence than others.

Listen to podcasts, eg from radio 4, READ, do an EPQ, take free MOOCS, do relevant work experience if possible, especially for medics, dentists, vets (to show people skills, so not necessarily in a medical etc setting). Above all, apply for a subject you genuinely love and do enough work in advance to find out why you love it so much. Then explain that.

Martinisarebetterdirty · 21/02/2022 19:54

Not for university but I recruit graduates (general finance / business so not medical) and I like to see extra curricular, love to see D of E, love to see a hobby that has continued from school to university and I also like to see a part time job that has been held down for a while. Sorry for the tangent reply I just wanted to point out that university isn’t the end of the line.

ukborn · 22/02/2022 20:47

I believe that extra curricular or clubs or what have you should be because the child is interested, not because it gets them points for uni applications. If it can be both, great.
But I am amazed that unis here aren't interested in extracurricular stuff, as surely it shows a well rounded, interested and interesting person. And how do they differentiate between one three As (or Bs or Cs) student and another? As for disadvantaged children, the fact that they may have a part time job to help with household expenses or need to care for siblings etc also shows commitment, organisation and responsibility.
For example, though I was able to take my child to rugby practise, there were certainly others who cycled or took the bus, and there was a system to help pay for the kit and annual dues if unaffordable. It demonstrated total commitment that these boys, driven or not, got themselves up and to practise one evening and every Sunday morning rain, hail or shine. That would interest me if I was on an admitting panel. Likewise, my daughter has started a club in her school - it doesn't cost money and they meet at lunch. She, and the members, are doing something interesting with their time, learning new skills and working together. Surely that is something to be proud of and highlight?
I wouldn't want to be treated by a doctor who has nothing but amazing grades. And if I was recruiting for a university, I would value a person as a whole, not just their ability to do well in exams.

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