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Kent Grammar Schools

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MumDagKent · 18/10/2021 14:44

Hello Mums,,

Please can anyone recommend Grammar Schools that are not super selective in Kent? we are willing to move to any part of Kent..

Thank you

MumDagKent

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Whohashiddenthebiscuits · 27/10/2021 18:28

As it happens it was our first preference anyway but the offer letter was pretty conditional on listing the school first. Whether that’s illegal or not good form or not, that is what it said. I understand what you are saying though equal preference and the reasoning for that.

Whohashiddenthebiscuits · 27/10/2021 18:29

I wish I’d kept the letter now re the wording!

ChildOfFriday · 27/10/2021 18:37

Me too- I'd be very interested to see the wording! Even if they did mean the latter, it doesn't sound like it was very clear and could be misleading.

Here is the admissions code: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachmentdata/file/1001050/Schoolladmissionscodee2021.pdf

P11 1.9c says that they cannot give priority based on the order that the schools are listed in, including 'first preference first'.

Bobbins36 · 27/10/2021 18:39

Cranbrook is lovely

ApplePippa · 27/10/2021 18:46

Well if you really are prepared to move to any area of Kent there's always the Thanet grammars - Dane Court (my old school) in Broadstairs, and Chatham and Clarenden in Ramsgate.

I never see them ever mentioned on any Kent grammar school thread. Presumably because they are so far from London and the "nice" parts of Kent!

LondonerByDay · 27/10/2021 21:39

Interesting @ApplePippa - do the Thanet grammars offer out of catchment places? Broadstairs is lovely!

MumDagKent · 27/10/2021 23:14

@Whohashiddenthebiscuits

Yes. I live in one of the Sevenoaks villages. Knole has a really bad reputation locally - only one child from her Primary class went to Knole (which considering we are in catchment speaks volumes for it’s considered desirability). However, to be fair to Knole, our local alternative (Wrotham) is much closer and higher performing. While parents here seem to avoid it like the plague, I think they’ve spent quite a lot of money on it and it’s reputation is to an extent a historical legacy.

Of the parents I know with DC there, one (DDs Brownie leader) had both her sons in the grammar stream and she was very happy with it. At least one of her DS’ went on to University (although was doing a Sports Management degree so perhaps not the most academic of courses). The other parents are of the boy in DDs class who went - their older son was already there and they both felt it was a good school that didn’t deserve it’s bad rep.

Location wise, it’s a bus ride from the station heading out to Greatness. It’s a huge school. It wasn’t what we wanted to DD but has some very good facilities. Performance wise it’s under par compared to the other local alternatives in Sevenoaks (Trinity and Wrotham). I’ve attached the stats for you. However if he was in the grammar stream he would obviously be with higher performing children.

While DC do go to Knole from a pretty wide area I believe. I really don’t think it’s do-able from Maidstone (and would involve some complicated train route, changing at Otford then getting a bus from outside the station out to Knole). It really wouldn’t be do-able from Ashford. House budget wise (and you haven’t stated what you’d be looking at), Sevenoaks is obviously a very expensive area. Great if you’ve got the budget but if not then I’d suggest looking at Tonbridge if you want a town. Bat and Ball & Dunton Green are the cheaper parts of Sevenoaks. Bat & Ball is very close to Knole. Sevenoaks villages where you’ll find cheaper properties include Borough Green and Wrotham which have a direct bus to Knole. But when I say cheap, you’d be looking at £450-500K at least for a 3 bed.

You say conditional so I assume that’s on listing Knole first? Truthfully, if you are offered any of the Faith schools (Bennett’s, St Simon Stock or Trinity, I know I’d plump for them over Knole but that reflects probably a bit of bias on my part!

Thank you much for the explanation. Our first choice will always be Bennett, Knole is actually our 4th choice lol. We are moving to Kent next month and we plan to rent for 6 - 12 months while we wait for selection day. We then plan to buy a property close to the school our son will be attending for secondary school.
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MumDagKent · 27/10/2021 23:17

The letter did state the offer is conditional and for Grammar stream admission.

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MumDagKent · 27/10/2021 23:18

@Whohashiddenthebiscuits

Stats from Gov.uk
Thank you for sharing, Knole is our 4th choice
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MumDagKent · 27/10/2021 23:23

@NaturalBlondeYeahRight

Both my niece and nephew go there (Grammar steam) and they are super happy and doing very well. I love nowhere near so have nothing to go on except that. That being said, I thought you didn’t live in Kent yet?
Thank you for sharing, moving to Kent next month.
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MumDagKent · 27/10/2021 23:24

@ApplePippa

Well if you really are prepared to move to any area of Kent there's always the Thanet grammars - Dane Court (my old school) in Broadstairs, and Chatham and Clarenden in Ramsgate.

I never see them ever mentioned on any Kent grammar school thread. Presumably because they are so far from London and the "nice" parts of Kent!

Thank you for responding.
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MumDagKent · 27/10/2021 23:26

[quote ChildOfFriday]**@Whohashiddenthebiscuits* Schools are not allowed to make offers conditional on putting them first. Obviously if the OP lists it further down and is offered a school higher up on her list then she won't be offered Knole as well, but they cannot say that they will not offer a place if you don't list them first/will prioritise people putting them first. I would assume that the conditional refers to listing it on the form/putting in an application- what have they said the offer is conditional on @MumDagKent*? [/quote]
The offer is conditional, and the letter didn't mention that I should list them as first.

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MumDagKent · 27/10/2021 23:32

Thank you so much everyone for responding, the offer letter did mention it is a conditional offer for Grammar Stream and my son must perform well at the Key stage 2 SATS Exams.

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LIZS · 28/10/2021 11:23

@MumDagKent

Thank you so much everyone for responding, the offer letter did mention it is a conditional offer for Grammar Stream and my son must perform well at the Key stage 2 SATS Exams.
How do they define that? If he does not what happens then as results are well after places are allocated, is he offered a non grammar place instead?
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