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Moving son to different school - year 8 - any advice or success stories

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wonderstuff123 · 15/10/2021 07:19

Hi all,first post on here and having genuine mum guilt of am I doing the right thing.
Son is in year 8 and he's had a rubbish start.
His two besties started to isolate and be quite mean to him at the start of the year so he decided to start walking to school on his own.
Things were going ok,it seemed they'd made a clean break and there was no drama.
On Friday I get a phonecall saying he'd been involved in an altercation (ex friend pushing and kicking him in playground),other child sanctioned,my child not and school said he was not to blame. Straight after the fight,it seemed another child (let's call them A) said the ex friend should punch him and DS was pushed by several other children into the school.
This then led to my son refusing to attend school on Monday because he was too terrified child A would punch him. His fear seemed to stem from the fact child A is known to get in fights and is taller than other child.
School dealt with it horrendously when I told them he was too scared to come to school and asked for a meeting, essentially told they had no time to meet with me
He went back yesterday as we only met with them on Weds evening to agree what would happen but has had to go in early,leave early,stay inside for break and lunchtime as hes still too anxious to go outside. He was escorted round school with a staff member. So it's good they're doing something but obviously it's not ideal.

I got a phone call yesterday from a school in a nearby town saying they have a space and he could start in 2 weeks,after half term. The school is head and shoulders above the current one in many regards,results,extra curricular activities,Ofsted,smaller cohort (having been a teacher I do know that doesn't matter much).

His current school is in the middle of a deprived area,again not that that matters,I've worked in schools in similar areas and they don't have the same issues this one seems to have. But I think they seem to have so much to deal with with behaviour and home situations,learning and expectations get pushed to the side. There's a fight pretty much every week my son said,both inside and outside the school - the outside ones have been videoed and sent round on social media,I've seen group chats where there's been discussion of children who should kill themselves,discussion if barcodes on the wrist (self harm),there have been Police called into school for a girl selling vapes and drugs in the toilet (son overheard teachers discussing it) - we do discuss things with him like not believing rumours and only believing stuff you see with your own eyes - but I wouldn't be surprised if children Were being targeted by county lines as there's a lot of vulnerable kids there. I think staff do their best with a difficult situation and the head who seemed to turn it around,left in Sept 2020,just as son started. They also don't set homework in year 7 or 8 and when I asked about this recently as it was only just confirmed that this was the case,there was no reasoning behind it.

So whilst the situation on Friday was sped up the move,I did actually set the wheels in motion in April when I started to get a gut feeling the school wasn't right for him. Tellingly,when we've asked him several times this week,would he rather continue on at this school or go to a new one where he knew no one,he was adamant he wanted to move. He's said this when he was to scared to go in and he's still saying it now after he's gone back and had a good day and felt safe. This is a pretty big statement for a 12 year old,he said he's not worried about making me friends,he said he just wants to go to a school where there are less fights and is in a better area. I think he's just totally fed up of the fights and drama

To be honest,the new school is one I could have only dreamed for him to go to. It's 10 miles away so will be a bit of a logistical nightmare but we could do it.

I'm just having a bit of a wobble. What if he doesn't make friends? What if he struggles with the expectations - I'd imagine homework and behaviour will be a big jump.

Sorry for the long post but I'd love to hear from anyone else who moved their child and it was successful x

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wonderstuff123 · 15/10/2021 07:22

That should say I know the Ofsted report doesn't really matter, not a smaller cohort! Ofsted is one measurement but I don't hang my hat on it alone.

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Fireflygal · 15/10/2021 07:25

If he wants to move and you had a place take it. You can just get a bad cohort in a year group and nothing can be done. The chances of him not making friends is very unlikely. I know of someone who have just moved a child in Year 8 a few weeks ago, for similar reasons and it's going extremely well.

sjxoxo · 15/10/2021 07:28

I think move him; sounds from your post you also think it’s the right thing to do. I don’t think it could get much worse than where he is now..so you’ve not really got anything potentially to lose IMO. Sorry your son has had to experience that sort of behaviour; I’d be peed off at the schools response but I think I’d just move him and draw a line under it xox

atracurious · 15/10/2021 07:28

Oh god, I'd move him in a heartbeat.

JohnGetHomeNow · 15/10/2021 07:28

Given everything that has gone on I would do it. Ds2 has had children join his friendship group in the last few years that were new to the school. I should also say that both my sons went to a secondary where they didn't know anyone and made great friendships but they did start in year 7.

As lockdown interfered with year 7 last year I wouldn't think that friendships were so tight at the new school as to be difficult. I would pull him out of his current school now, he can just be ill, phone in sick for him and get the transfer complete then he doesn't have to endure any more of his current school.

If you can spend the next school week attempting that new school run as a dummy run for the real thing.

catzfur · 15/10/2021 07:31

Move him. You felt it wasn’t right a few months ago and things are getting worse for him rather than better. Sometimes children need a fresh start and it better to do it now rather than during GCSEs.

Chakraleaf · 15/10/2021 07:31

I moved my son in year 8. Best thing I did. He settled super fast.

Sweetnhappy1 · 15/10/2021 08:19

Hi, no direct experience but my DD has had children join in year 8 and in year 9 with no issues. Go with your gut feeling. All children have the right to feel safe at school.

SinoohXaenaHide · 15/10/2021 08:29

I don't have any experience of this specifically but I think you should go for the move. Your son wanting to move is the key thing - it will be a success according to his own attitude so if he wants to do it, it will work out. Focus on what you can do between now and when he starts the new school to ensure he goes in confident, happy to join in with lots of activities and mskd new friends.

However he does need to understand that no school is perfect and it's entirely possible that the new school will also contain a bully or two. He will still need to develop the life skills to recognise and resist bullying behaviour. I think it's right to move him on this occasion, but it's important that this doesn't set a precedent that he'd expect you to parachute him to somewhere new next time the going gets tough.

Tal45 · 15/10/2021 08:44

God I'd move him in a heart beat, but then I wouldn't have sent him to this awful sounding school in the first place.

unknownstory · 15/10/2021 23:17

I'd move him. Current school is a far cry from our experience of a good state high in a mixed catchment area.

theSunday · 16/10/2021 17:58

From where I’m standing it seems very clear cut. I’d move him

Brollywasntneededafterall · 16/10/2021 18:01

My ds struggled in year 7. What of it he actually attended due to Covid was a matter of weeks tbh.. Bullying imo. And not by the pupils... Took him it after ott 'punishments' for petty 'crimes'.. Suspected adhd but school rejected my worries..
Left in May. Just started a new school in September... Seems like a good move so far.

zafferana · 16/10/2021 18:04

Your DS wants to move. The school you'd send him to sounds much better than the current one. I'd move him in a heartbeat!

KleineDracheKokosnuss · 16/10/2021 18:27

Move him. Immediately. He’s asked for you to and there’s a space.

Do t tell anyone at the current schoolml where he’s going, so as to avoid cross contamination by the bullies contacting mates at the new school.

Flowersintheattic2021 · 17/10/2021 21:02

Move him. Remind him. If anyone ever hits him hit them twice as hard bk. Never hit anyone first. Works well for my dd. Only had a few issues. Move school

Lou573 · 17/10/2021 21:06

Move him!

Greydaysandrainbows · 17/10/2021 21:09

Move him

Greydaysandrainbows · 17/10/2021 21:10

@Flowersintheattic2021

Move him. Remind him. If anyone ever hits him hit them twice as hard bk. Never hit anyone first. Works well for my dd. Only had a few issues. Move school
Don’t ever do this- good god.

Ask the school to set him up with some buddies, get him signed up to EC and don’t forget bullies often chase targets - eg online etc

Flowersintheattic2021 · 17/10/2021 21:15

Why not? My dd friend other day whacked her on head. Apparently she had knocked her accidentally with her planner and my dd wasn't even aware. Anyways she wacked the girl on the top of head- as she had done to her twice as hard. Nil issue since. Infact I mentioned it to pastoral lead and my dd wasn't in trouble and the other girl had to apologise and told if it happened again it was assault

wonderstuff123 · 17/10/2021 22:22

What's EC?

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CakesOfVersailles · 17/10/2021 22:30

Definitely move him! Even if it takes him a while to make friends, surely that's better than his so-called friends hurting him at his current school?

At a good, functioning school kids integrate well even joining at non-standard points. Sometimes it can be a benefit as the new child is a novelty and may make friends more easily than if they joined with everyone else.

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