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welsh second language - wales

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Rmehta · 09/09/2021 18:16

Hi,
My son is good in all subjects but not good in Welsh as a second language as we are new in the country.
So for GCSE and A levels if he will get very bad scores (scores very low grades) in welsh
how does it affect his admission for university/professional courses

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amillionmenonmars · 09/09/2021 18:23

I don't really understand the question. He will probably have to take a qualification at GCSE - either of full course or short course (half a GCSE). He will not have to take it for A Level. Universities will not be interested in his Welsh result as I assume he will not be applying to study it at degree level. They will be interested in his A Level results, though they do also sometimes look at overall GCSE grades they are really only interested in these as an overall picture - say his top 7 subjects for instance. This will apply to both Welsh and English unis.

Rmehta · 09/09/2021 18:26

he is planning for Information technology. which subjects will matter and how does the university evaluate them?
So even if he gets the lowest grade in wales it does not matter?

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amillionmenonmars · 09/09/2021 18:32

The best place to check for correct information are the universities themselves. Look at the UCAS website www.ucas.com/explore/subjects.

Different uni courses have different requirements. the Welsh qualification will make no difference at all to them as he is not applying for a degree in the medium of Welsh. Even if he failed it completely as long as enough of his other grades are good then that will be fine.

What is important is that he chooses the right A Levels for the course he wants and that he gets the grades they ask for in those. Does he know which unis he is interested in?

amillionmenonmars · 09/09/2021 18:36

From the UCAS site - for Computer Science courses - Entry requirements

A levels – To get on to a computer science related degree you will usually require at least two A levels or equivalent. Entry requirements range from CDD to AAA, with the universities and colleges most commonly asking for BBC. In addition to the different A level requirements above, you will also need at least five GCSEs (A-C) including science, English, and maths. Some universities require a maths GCSE for computer science degrees.

Vocational courses – Other Level 3/Level 6 qualifications (e.g. Pearson BTEC Level 3 National Extended Diploma in Computing, SVQ IT Professionals (SCQF Level 6)) may be accepted as an alternative to A levels/Highers by some providers. It’s essential that you check alternative entry requirements with universities or colleges.

WhenZoomWasJustAnIceLolly · 09/09/2021 19:00

The second language GCSE is really, really easy.
I don’t think it will impact his uni applications even if he flunks it.
The time it will matter is if he wants to apply for jobs within Wales. Depending what he wants to do and where in Wales you live. However, he could at that point take a Welsh for adults qualification if he wanted to improve his Welsh.

Berthatydfil · 09/09/2021 19:14

Speak to the teachers ASAP
Questions
Is it short course or full course?
Is he on the higher tier or foundation course ( pass grade will be capped but foundation won’t cover the more difficult like the tenses etc. )

Lots of welsh pupils don’t do well in welsh language - lots of reasons for this.

Unless he wants to do Welsh in uni or a course that needs a high number of A grades (like medicine) it won’t really matter. If you are worried I’m sure the school will understand and they may offer some other alternative like a lunch time additional subject class.

Rmehta · 10/09/2021 06:14

he is planning for Computer Science for Uni

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Berthatydfil · 10/09/2021 08:28

I wouldn’t worry at all.
It won’t be an issue if he goes to uni outside Wales and in Wales there are a small number of courses done in the Welsh language or the choice of some modules taught in Welsh but that’s it.
You don’t say what year he is in but if he has year 10 and 11 he could easily pass if he works plus there are plenty of Welsh language resources Duolingo and learners courses out there if he wanted to supplement his learning

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