Year 11 assessments and raw scores 2021

[MostlyHappyMummy]

Hi
Does anyone know whether schools have to provide raw scores and ranking information, if requested, for the year 11 assessments taking place this year?
I know they have been asked not to provide information on final grades but wasn't sure about the actual raw marks.
Thank you very much

We are not sharing this information, if a kid gets full marks they know they’ll get a 9.

We also aren’t ranking students-that was last year.

Also been told not to give out raw scores. If a kid went home and told mum he'd got 36/40 then moderation took place or he did less well on another assessment there could be all sorts of problems.

No.
We have been very clearly told by 2 different schools that this will not be given out and that they will not engage in any conversations about this.

Having said that, they have been given the results of some of their tests which are being used towards the final grades.

Having said that, they have been given the results of some of their tests which are being used towards the final grades

Same here.

As a contrast, we are giving raw scores and have also been told by SLT that we need to rank out students before we submit our final TAG grades.

Thank you for all the responses.
Is there an actual rule/guidance about this or is it at the school's discretion?

It is all at the school's discretion. Also worth noting that parental pressure, attempts by parents or students to negotiate which evidence is used etc. could be considered malpractice. If a school gives grade details that is also malpractice.

Each school has written a policy about this which will be checked and approved.
We're giving out nothing.

@MostlyHappyMummy if you want the information when it’s all over you can request it under freedom of information. You have a right to all the information school hold on your child if you want it.

Schools have been asked to use a range of evidence so if a school's chosen range incudes mock exams from before Christmas or other independent work that has been marked and returned, then students will already be in possession of some of their 'raw scores'. However, knowing those isn't going to be overly useful because schools may choose to give different weighting to different assessments.

Students who have consistently performed at a grade 9 throughout every assessment across the course may be fairly confident that they will be awarded a 9. In some schools, students who gained a 9 in a subject for December mocks have been told they do not have to sit further assessments.

Thank you @PotteringAlong that's useful to know.

@SE13Mummy

Schools have been asked to use a range of evidence so if a school's chosen range incudes mock exams from before Christmas or other independent work that has been marked and returned, then students will already be in possession of some of their 'raw scores'. However, knowing those isn't going to be overly useful because schools may choose to give different weighting to different assessments.

Students who have consistently performed at a grade 9 throughout every assessment across the course may be fairly confident that they will be awarded a 9. In some schools, students who gained a 9 in a subject for December mocks have been told they do not have to sit further assessments.

yes we have been told something similar. There are usuing a selection of things to show the grade, but they only have to prove it once. So if they got the grade in mocks, they don't have to get it again in each test. By the same token, if they got a bad score in mocks, but then get a high grade in tests now, they mocks may not be used

Ours are giving out raw scores but not grades and have been told they cannot assume where grade boundaries may be. There is to be no official ranking this year.

But how does that work ('banking' a high grade and only having to prove it once), when schools have to use the same pieces of evidence for all students? I know it's not a simple as using averages, but surely if a child scored - for example - 8,9,7,8 in four assessments, the fact that they scored a 9 once doesn't mean they are a 9...?

Dd did dreadful in her December as did many others.

Since then they seem to have done continuous assessments and the outcomes have been unknown.

How will they grade without grade boundaries out of interest? Dd normally gets 7s in English language and sometimes 8s. She got a 9 in her mock in November but is still sitting more exams (this afternoon actually) but I wouldn't assume she will get a 9 if she happens to do badly in this exam. I thought they would just take all the grades from exams and assessments over the 2 years and give her some sort of average? That does sound like a lot of work though so maybe not!

@Titsywoo the exam board have issued the level descriptors for each grade - it’s not as simple as 50% = 5 (for example), it’s how well the work fits into a grade descriptor.

Each subject at ds's school has declared what evidence is being used to determine the grade. It's a mixture of mocks/coursework/constant assessment and final exams.

The final exams are now and they will know what % they get but not what grade the school considers that to be.....

Nothing revealed at our school. No raw scores, no percentages, nothing. They aren’t taking anything into account other than the zillion exams they’ve been doing since Easter. They didn’t have mocks so don’t have data. All they can rely on is these pre & post Easter exams. They are dead on their feet. A lot have now given up revising. They’ve been putting in 100% effort since September thinking every homework, test etc mattered & would count. They’re now burnt out.

schools have to use the same pieces of evidence for all students?

This isn't true.

GravityFalls we’ve been told they need the same pieces of evidence across the cohort too. They can only submit something different in extreme circumstances and need to explain that. Apparently.

That's what JCQ says, yes. We can't say these 200 kids did well on this so we're using it for them but these 40 didn't so we're using that.
We can have variations for other reasons -p21
www.jcq.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/JCQ-Guidance-on-the-Determination-of-Grades-for-A-AS-Levels-and-GCSEs-Summer-2021.pdf

A school local to me has told students grades for the most recent assessments. Parents are taking these grades to be final GCSE grades.

DDs school is giving out absolutely no details whatsoever, not even raw scores to pupils, and we've been told not to ask about any possible grades, which is very strange because my older DC were tracked so closely we knew more or less what to expect on results day. One teacher did mention to DD she has a certain grade already, but I think that's based on coursework/performance and DD could get a higher grade if she did better than expected in the final assessment. I think that's what she meant, anyway.