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Portland Place School

33 replies

winterrabbit · 02/05/2021 11:36

Does anyone have any up to date experiences with this school? TIA.

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loulabee · 26/05/2021 21:45

My son is presently finishing his GCSEs at Portland place. He’s mildly dyslexic but it’s a plus as he thinks outside the box. The school encourages individual talent & is very supportive. PP has been brilliant for my son. My youngest might join this year. It’s a nurturing & encouraging environment which is most important for me. The rest is up to the individual. I cannot choose my child’s path - only encourage it. PP is perfect for parents who think outside the box & hope to inspire & nurture the same in their children. My son is very musical but took economics, computer science & business. Straight 9s. We are creatives. Systematic hot housing is not what PP is about. I’d highly recommend this school.

meadowbreeze · 28/05/2021 15:16

Does anyone have any experience with their new hybrid provision?

ghislaine · 12/11/2021 16:58

We are going to Portland Place’s open morning tomorrow. Any questions we should ask or things to look out for?

MP2021 · 23/11/2021 19:55

@ghislaine how did you find the open day? I've not been to one there, but met with the head and had a little tour last year. I liked it. The location would be very convenient for us as it's walking distance from our home. I like that it is co-ed and not an academic hot-house.

ghislaine · 24/11/2021 17:54

It's a mixed report from us. There was a lot to like about it. The head's opening talk very much chimed with our ethos - children have to be happy at school, and wellbeing and emotional development take priority over academic results. Success means different things for different children. All music to our ears.

The facilities were good, especially with the renovation of the former sixth-form buildings. I thought that the DT and Art rooms were especially impressive. They had a nice cosy library as well. Most of the teachers were enthusiastic and friendly. They are clearly very aware of their lack of outside space and work hard to overcome it with daily PE and other outside activities.

A few things gave me pause for thought. Once was the median age and thus experience of the teachers. Quite a large proportion of the ones we met were new starters in September and presented themselves as refugees from the state sector. So I wasn't sure how they might deal with somewhat different children or what might happen when the novelty of small classes etc wore off.

Another was the overwhelming emphasis they presented on technology-assisted learning. I don't want my children staring at screens for most of the day. I prefer more hands-on learning - if this is what's on offer, then they need to make it clearer as it did come across as quite one dimensional.

It was a bit glitzy. There was a lot of talk about overseas trips for the children as part of the PP experience. Personally, I am not sure that one needs to fly to New York to see a play, or to Malta to play netball or to Tanzania to do charity work. I don't think it's environmentally responsible either.

The deciding point for me though was my interaction with the Head at the end of the tour. I had noticed a "pronouns" poster and display about being non-binary etc so I asked him whether the school was connected with Stonewall at all. Although I don't have daughters I am a feminist and am very concerned about the erosion of women and girls' sex-based rights through gender-identity theory and also the 'no debate' approach to such things. The Head's answer was unclear and evasive. He said they weren't "directly" involved with Stonewall and then something along the lines of they supported their students to be whoever they wanted to be. I did some digging afterwards and wasn't reassured that gender identity theory wasn't on their PSHE curriculum. I prefer a Head who is upfront with me and with whom I can be upfront. He didn't acknowledge that my concerns might be valid or offer details. So it's a no from us.

Meadowbreeze · 24/11/2021 18:26

@ghislaine We had a very similar experience. We went to see it but mainly to ask about the hybrid offer and we wanted to see what they do on Fridays.
I was really hopeful. I have learnt though that when a school tries to please everyone; children and parents, no one wins. That was my overwhelming feeling. I really wanted to love it. Some aspects I did. It really feels like whatever the parent/child wishes it will be granted. I dont know how that spans out in real life. Not everything about school will be happy. To me the young teachers were a massive alarm bell. Young teachers= woke teachers. I don't want that. There is enough of that everywhere. I don't want to pay £7k a term for that. I also want teachers with lots of experience. Some who are close to retirement. They're a dying breed and so rare in state schools. If you're accepting such a spiky cohort, you need people who can teach it, irrespective of your small class.
It felt like a tiny, glossy, posh state school in a liberal area trying to please the middle class.

MP2021 · 25/11/2021 09:09

@ghislaine thank you very much for your thorough feedback. Out of curiosity, which other schools did you look at that you liked? You have interesting views, different from mine which I find fascinating.

ghislaine · 25/11/2021 11:18

I think if you live near Portland Place then most of the schools I'm looking at might be too far away from you as I'm mostly looking south of the river, but in any case, here's the list of schools I'm considering. I haven't been to all of them yet though.

Bishop Challoners (co-ed, all through, Catholic) in Shortlands, near Bromley
Cedars (boys, secondary, Catholic) in West Norwood
St Dunstan's (co-ed, all through, secular) in Catford
Royal Russell (co-ed, all through, secular) in Croydon
Thames Christian School (co-ed, secondary, Protestant) in Clapham
Emanuel (co-ed, secondary, secular) near Clapham Junction.

I definitely don't want a school with a narrow focus on exam success. A boys' school shouldn't have an alpha male attitude or cultivate the view that girls are theirs for the taking. Nor should it be too large. They have to be able to deal with kids who are atypical and might not fit the standard mould. I need a Head that I can engage with honestly and who will be honest back.

You might be interested in Alleyn's in East Dulwich - I haven't visited it as it's highly selective and that puts me off straightaway.

MP2021 · 25/11/2021 14:39

You guessed right, south of the river is a bit far for us and the schools we applied at are all around North London.

Roll on 11th Feb (that's when most of our chosen schools send out offers) so I can be put out of my misery!!!

cricketjoys85 · 25/11/2021 15:58

@ghislaine , you should look at Ewell Castle in Ewell, it has a good head who will engage with you.

Milomonster · 26/11/2021 09:08

Thank you @ghislaine - very interesting insights.
Did you look at Maida Vale?

ghislaine · 26/11/2021 14:03

I looked into both of those schools but in reality the commute is too far from us so I didn't pursue things further.

0O7SH1 · 14/01/2022 19:43

@ghislaine - I query a few of your points. Firstly, your desire for older teachers. Yes, they may have more experience but a school with younger teachers is at a great advantage. They are so much more adaptable to technological and pedagogical developments than many (but not all) staff nearing the end of their careers and have had so much more recent and research-driven training on the diverse needs of children whether with SEND or not. Secondly, circumstance and a desire for a more diverse teaching career (or a multiplicity of other reasons) does not mean that teachers from state schools moving to the private sector are “refugees” - a displaced person forced to move or who is unable to return. Would that term be applied to civil servants moving to the corporate world - this is perhaps rather demeaning. Finally, and maybe my strongest feeling is that teachers, who are educating our children for today (and tomorrow’s) world, should (arguably must) be alert and tackling racism and discrimination in all its forms - which is the definition of WOKE rather than the meaning which some have decided to take to have a negative association.
To end - choosing a school for your child is a very personal and individual selection, as every child is different. Some schools you may love; some schools you may dislike: there is no benefit in preaching your very personal and individual opinions where others will read, and potentially question their own decisions for their child who they know infinitely better.

ghislaine · 14/01/2022 20:22

Sorry. I thought this was a discussion forum, not an echo chamber.

hibbledibble · 14/01/2022 20:54

Portland place has a reputation for being a school for nice but dim pupils. I know many who went there, who did very poorly academically, but generally had a good time. Their academic results are quite likely worse than your local comprehensive's.

An issue of the school is that it is very permissive, which has led to some shocking behaviour on the school site and on school trips.

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MP2021 · 16/01/2022 08:37

@hibbledibble please will elaborate on the "shocking behaviour" at school and on trips.

I like the school, headmaster and their ethos and my child attended their assesment day there yesterday. However, I don't know anyone that actually goes to the school so am interested to find out more.

ghislaine · 16/01/2022 18:24

The Good Schools Guide mentions that the first thing the new (current) head did was to expel two pupils for drug-related activity. I find that quite a surprising thing to feature, given that the GSG is usually unrelentingly positive and I can only assume it’s to reassure prospective parents that the school has turned a corner. If you do a search for the school on mumsnet you’ll find references to poor student behaviour although no specifics. Perhaps there might be more intel on a local forum?

hibbledibble · 16/01/2022 19:13

The behaviour involved alcohol, drugs, and underage sexual activity.

Ericaequites · 17/01/2022 05:04

Change is not always improvement. I’d rather have older teachers with proven strategies, formal manners, and constant emphasis on SPAG. But I’m a strict traditionalist who strongly believes in high standards and good pastoral care.

Stuffragette · 18/01/2022 11:33

@hibbledibble my dd is 'nice but dim' as you put it. Trying to find a school in London for her on the London selective school circuit is impossible. So don't forget some of us need schools for the dim. And they're v hard to find.

MP2021 · 18/01/2022 11:45

@Stuffragette I’m in your club. Some people really need to think before they type. Schools like Portland Place exist for a reason and there aren’t enough of them.

Stuffragette · 18/01/2022 14:00

Where have you looked @MP2021? I've tried every school I can think of in London! Her state school option is a really good one but it's so big I worry she'll get lost and not have enough support. I hate this school business sooooooo much

hibbledibble · 19/01/2022 16:58

Sorry for any offence caused, my point was that the school has a poor academic record, and that often children would be better at their local comprehensive. I don't see what the parents who spend fortunes on their children's education there, for them to leave with zero/ poor qualifications (not a single A-level is some cases), achieved.

MP2021 · 19/01/2022 18:23

@hibbledibble I don't really care about results; my child will probably become a zookeeper, baker or an acrobat and as I understand, Portland Place doesn't have a 6th form anymore any way.

@Stuffragette I like Maida Vale School but the location is not ideal. We can stay at our current prep school until Y8 and try to get in to Fine Arts, or... wish for a miracle. We'll see. Friends who are in the same boat like King Alfred or Forest School.

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