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Does anyone know what these MIDIS chart thingies actually mean? Teachers?

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irises · 01/11/2007 15:24

Ok, went to ds's pupil review day today, saw a clearly harrassed teacher who wanted us in and out asap, had a bit of a grumble about ds not paying attention (they always say that, sadly!)

Anyway, she handed me a printout with all these bar charts on them . On the bottoms it says levels N,3,4,5,6,& 7or 8.

Up the side it says 0 to 80 % (not 100 %). Wont bore uyou with all 12 charts, but the main ones were:

English 6% level 5, 34% level 6, 60% level 7.

Maths 3% level 6, 45% level 7, 50% level 8

Science 1%level 5, 22%level 6, 77% level 7

Modern Languages 5% level 4, 26% level 5, 46% level 6, 19% level 7,5% level 8.

These were the baseline tests they did at the beginning of yr 7.

At the top of the sheet it says midyis score 133, midyis band A.

I have no idea what level they're supposed to be at, whether this is something to do with SATS (he got all level 5s at the end of Yr6), or something totally unrelated to SATS.

He's average, so far as I can see for his school (Grammar), certainly by no means one of the brightest in the class, in fact he was bottom of the class in Maths.

Help, I'm confused!!!!

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knifewieldingtoddler · 01/11/2007 15:47

For English: 6% of the cohort is able to attain a L5, 34% is able to attain a Level 6 and 60% is able to attain a Level 7 - at the end of KS3 (yr 9)

If a pupil achieves a Level 5 in Languages by the end of Yr 9, then he has to potential to attain a C at GCSE.
etc, etc.

a score of 133 puts him in the top band (A) and he is expected to do well in GCSEs as long as he remains consistent with his performance throughout.

PS being at the bottom of Set one for example would still mean that he can get an A in GCSE at my school anyway.

ps, must name change.

irises · 01/11/2007 15:52

Ahh, so does this chances chart refer to his whole year, not him personally, then ?

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knifewieldingtoddler · 01/11/2007 16:14

it refers to the whole school but i think it ought to give you his scores for each subject somewhere.

irises · 01/11/2007 16:59

Looking at the sheet again, it's headed "Summary Chances Graphs for IrisBoy, so I presume it's his personal score, not the schools.

It's quite interesting, eg. v. high score for RE (he's an atheist h[hmm[) and not v. good at all for Design and Tech.

Thanks for the info KWT!

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knifewieldingtoddler · 02/11/2007 06:20

yes, you are right. so it is his chances of getting a level 5 etc. i haven't looked fully at midyis scores for a while and confusing them with whole school stats which i have been scrutinising a whole lot more recently.

irises · 02/11/2007 09:46

Thank you!

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fembear · 02/11/2007 10:55

The MidYIS are the tests that they do at the beginning of Y7, as you said. They can be used (individually for the pupil) to set GCSE predictions and (collectively for the school) to record the school-entry level for use in the calculation of the school's Value Added score in 5 years' time, when they get the actual GCSE results.

PS The kids have been doing Maths, Eng etc since forever and so the scale goes up to Level 7 or 8 in those subjects. It is assumed that they only start Languages in Y7 so the expectations for Y9 SATs Levels are much lower in these subjects.

knifewieldingtoddler · 02/11/2007 12:55

Languages is still graded up to level 7 at the end of KS 3 what is different is the interpretation of what a level 7 means in languages vs what it means in English.

so, a level 7 in Foreign Languages does not equate to the complexity of language he would use in an English lesson.

irises · 02/11/2007 13:40

So in crude terms, bearing in mind he's predicted level 7 & 8 for most things, that means he's capable of good GCSEs, is that right?

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popsycal · 02/11/2007 13:45

COme to this late....but yes he is

popsycal · 02/11/2007 13:46

also the fact that his overall score is 133 suggests that he is brighter than he is having you believe.....

popsycal · 02/11/2007 13:48

Just want to add too: MIDYS tests non-verbal reasoning too which, amongst other things, shows 'potential'. So his 133 score suggests that he is capable of more than he is achieving at school - a matter of finding what is standing in his way....

irises · 02/11/2007 13:48

Good-oh!

Thanks to all of you for helping to explain.

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irises · 02/11/2007 13:52

Sadly the only thing standing in his way is his monumental laid backness.

He seems to spend most of his time gaming/talkingabout gaming/thinking about gaming.

It does come in handy, though, we were all playing the PS2 last night and dh and I were flummoxed about quite a complex prob (how to move a block of concrete round 3 corners before getting spikes up our bums) and he just got it straight away. Dh said, that's why ds is at grammar and we ain't!

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sugarfree · 02/11/2007 13:56

I've just had a letter home saying that DS1 (yr 9) has a MIDYIS Band B.No actual score though.
No explanation,nothing to compare it to.Never had it on any of his other Progress Review information.
So what does this mean? He's average or... what?
(He's top band but has to be constantly poked with a stick to stay there I think.I would call him a plodder who does as little as he can get away with.)

popsycal · 02/11/2007 13:57

IRISES - there is his non-verbal intelligence in action

irises · 02/11/2007 13:58

Sugarfree, maybe you should get a brief appt with his form tutor to ask.

It's no good giving us this info without explaining it imo.

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sugarfree · 02/11/2007 14:04

Good idea irises,I may well do that.
I've been to the link further up and couldn't find any information on what the Bands actually mean.
Maybe I have a MIDYIS Band F?

irises · 02/11/2007 14:05

me too

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sugarfree · 02/11/2007 14:16
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knifewieldingtoddler · 02/11/2007 14:28

there are only 3 bands, A, B, and C.

since irises' ds is not predicted to do well at DT, it would be that the test also tests things like spatial awareness which he may not be good at.

it because he is predicted to do well in English and Science, he will also be good at history,RE etc. nothing to do with athiesm...

sugarfree · 02/11/2007 14:35

See,I can read that KWT,but it goes 'whoosh' straight over my head.
Aren't you glad you don't teach me?

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