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The less good local school or the good one that's hard to get to?

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melodybear · 29/10/2020 12:07

Another last minute which secondary school thread. I have been backwards and forwards over this decision all year and I still don't know what to do. A key factor is that logistically DH and I couldn't take her/pick her up from either school due to the starting and finishing times of our own jobs

School A: Our local catchment school. We would definitely get in. We live in a small town and it is the only school in the town and therefore has a "centre of the community" feel to it. Most children from DC's class will go there. It is walkable at a stretch or there is a relatively straightforward bus journey or several other local parents who drop children there and pick up who would almost certainly give our DC a lift. I went to the open evening last year. They have a newish building, a new head who I really liked and I spoke to some really nice pupils. The main downside - academically their results aren't great. The most recently published results were below average both for the area and nationally. There isn't data available for previous years (it changed to academy status) but I don't think it's ever had the best reputation for academic results. DD is pretty bright and well-supported at home but I wonder if she needs a more academic environment. The school doesn't have a recent Ofsted as it became an academy since the last inspection but over the previous ten years or so it has been RI, then good, then back to RI just before the academisation.

School B: Faith school 4 miles away. We would qualify on the faith basis and are within the furthest distance that was offered last year so would likely get in. It has a good reputation, very good results and an outstanding Ofsted (although it hasn't been inspected for over 10 years). We know someone who worked there for a while and she said the behaviour wasn't as good as she had expected but academically they were very on the ball. It's obviously the better school, but she wouldn't know anyone going there, the intake is from a wide geographic area so less likely to have local friends and most crucially, it is very difficult to get to logistically. It involves me driving her to the station, a train, then bus and short walk, about 45 minutes in total. On the return journey it would be the same except she would also have to get bus or taxi back from the station. It wouldn't bother me so much if she was a bit older or knew other children doing the journey but there are very few local children who go there because of the faith criteria. She is not used to public transport at all, although obviously we'd try to get her used it it. The bus only runs on schooldays so it's not possible to try out the run in the holidays or weekends.

The other option is taxis both ways, which my parents have offered to help with the cost of but it would work out around £4000 a year. Probably within a year or two we'd feel more confident about her getting public transport but it still seems like a crazy amount to spend. I feel like it might be better to go to the local school and then spend money on tutors.

It seems like I'm making the decision based on logistics, rather than just sending her to the best school, which makes me feel guilty.

OP posts:
Hoppinggreen · 29/10/2020 13:20

I would never pick a faith school unless there was no good alternative

Guymere · 29/10/2020 13:34

I’m really surprised the faith school doesn’t run busses. 4 miles taking 45 mins is ridiculous. I live in the countryside. You also have the problem of what happens if a train or bus runs late and the disruption to travel plans? Total nightmare I would have thought.

It’s generous for grandparents to pay but £4000 could surely be spent on something more productive!? I would probably go local in your circumstances. An Ofsted 10 years old is worthless. Generally though they are not useless. They look at progress made by dc snd not just results. As teachers you should know that! So what do the progress figures look like at the local school? What about numbers of high achievers, middle, lower etc? What about pp? What about sport, music and drama? Do you think the head will improve the school and maintain that position? Or will they move on to their next project school? You need to look at say more than results and I’m amazed your husband doesn’t see this too.

HazelWong · 29/10/2020 13:38

Can you move closer to school 2? Could she cycle?

cobaltred · 29/10/2020 13:44

If it were me I'd choose the more academic school but then move closer, either on the bus route or walkable. But then schools were the key factor when we chose our house.

maybelou · 29/10/2020 16:46

Then I would lean toward the local school and look into a tutor if needed for the academic side. It's exhausting having to commute, I wouldn't want to do it myself!

notanoctopus · 29/10/2020 20:23

It depends on how well the local school challenges bright kids. If it's not great, then maybe a mix of taxis some days and public transport on others for the other school? Maybe a taxi share if someone local ends up at the school? If local school challenges bright kids enough, then go there. Tutoring at schools where bright kids aren't challenged can make lessons even more dull for them as the gap in class ability is widened.

Seriously79 · 30/10/2020 22:30

School A - can you imagine the other commute for your daughter in the winter, when it's dark, cold, raining and she got her school bag, pe kit and cookery that day?

If a kid is clever and has the ability to learn, and is supported at home, she will be fine in the local school, with her friends.

MintyIguana · 31/10/2020 11:36

I'd speak to parents of kids at both schools if you can and find out what their support / strategy for lockdown teaching is. Faith schools are effectively selective in any case (assuming the criteria is that the kids have to show up at church on a very regular basis) so the results don't show the whole picture. Our nearest faith school which is very hard to get into does get really excellent results but relied on the fact that the majority of the kids are pretty focused with plenty of support at home, so didn't provide much extra, whereas the local comprehensive with more average results absolutely pulled out the stops and spent the summer preparing for different scenarios and teaching and support models. Just something to think about - results and ofsted reports have some use (though a 10-yr old ofsted is pretty useless) but current parent opinion is probably more use.

GlacindaTheTroll · 31/10/2020 12:14

Isn't today deadline day to submit applications for secondary schools?

I doubt there's time for OP to find and ask existing parents (beyond ones she already knows, and has probably already asked)

Just time to grasp the nettle!!

Or stick two photos onto a board and chuck a dart at it?

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