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choosing a secondary school at yr 6...

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MaryAnnSingleton · 12/09/2007 15:20

we are going to see the second of 2 local secondary schools next week. The first is quite big (990 on roll) and it looks as though many of ds' classmates will be choosing it. His particular friend has just started there in yr 7.
The other school is a bit smaller (812) and ds' primary is not a feeder school for it, nor are we in catchment area. Both though are about same walking distance from home and both roughly equally good academically.
The first seemed huge to me and a bit overwhelming - obv compared to cosy primary school - so how do we choose ?
obviously ds will have a say, plus I usually go on gut instinct/ vibes etc. He is a quiet, gentle boy so don't want him lost among the crowds. Any sage advice gratefully welcomed !

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MaryAnnSingleton · 12/09/2007 18:40

portonovo - thanks, that's interesting - not sure whether they are split up - they do either French or German, so probably are. MaureenMLove - glad to hear that your dd is settling in so well - hope you are feeling less anxious !

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seeker · 13/09/2007 07:53

Our year 7 are divided up according to the languages they are taking. My dd is in a class....sorry, form (apparantly, class is for Primary chool only! - of 29, and they are tending to move round in a pack at the moment. They have a form tutor, a year head and 2 ^th form Guardians looking after them, so I don't think the size is a problem. So far.......it's early days!

seeker · 13/09/2007 07:54

6th form, I mean!

Eliza2 · 14/09/2007 12:03

MaryAnnSingletonit sounds like one of Mary Gervaise's books about Georgie and her friendsTHE SECRET OF PONY PASS.

MaryAnnSingleton · 14/09/2007 16:33

I do believe you're right Eliza !!!!!! how exciting - I wonder if it's still available ? you're a star !!

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MaryAnnSingleton · 14/09/2007 17:13

it's available on Amazon - used copies - no reviews or synopsis,so can't tell if it's definitely the one.

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KTeePee · 16/09/2007 07:48

Any parents or teachers have any tips on what to look for regarding Maths & Science provision?

We have pretty much decided on our first choice for dd but someone has just advised me to check on Maths there - not sure what they meant really - are there different "levels" they can do maths at for GCSE's and A levels? Also I seem to remember something about some schools offering a general science GCSE which was not deemed as good especially if a child wanted to do science at A level and beyond.... anyone know what I mean?

Blandmum · 17/09/2007 14:23

OK, at the moment (and things keep changing, so who knows whet the system will be by the time you dcs start GCSEs) the system is as follows.

All children have to do GCSE science. They studyChemistry, physics and biology for a year, do a lot of exams/assessments and will get a GCSE in Science at the end of year 10. If they pass most schools will insist that they then go on to do a GCSE in Adittional Science in year 11. For this they will also study Biology, cemistry and physics. If they pass at the end of Year 11, they get a GCSE in Additional science. So they will end up with two GCSEs in science, that will covere Biology, chemistry and physics.

Some schools will let scientifically able children do GCSEs in Biology, Chemistry and Physics as separate sciences (just like we tended to do when we were in school). If they do this they will end up with 3 GCSEs in science.

there isn't UMHO, a gread deal of advantage in doing the 3 separate scineces with regard to A level, since we do most of the stuff, all over again at a higher level than separate science GCSE. Able children can get A grades at A level without sitting 3 separate sciences.

As a parent, and a science teacher I would encourage most childre to do the oiption that gets you 2 GCSEs in science. They can then use the 'spare' GCSE to study somethings else.....broadening their options, which is IMO a good idea at 14, because at that age few of them know what they are going to do later in life.

mant schools offer 3 sep sciences as a twilight session. This can be done, but is more work for the child, and unless they are very keen, most would rather be out playing footie etc

HTH

KTeePee · 17/09/2007 14:27

Thanks a lot for the explanation - didn't go to school in the UK so it is always a bit of a learning experience for me too as my children progress through the system!

I did Science (covering biology, chemistry & physics) for the equivalent of GCSE and then the three subjects separately for the equivalent of A levels so I guess it's much the same....

Just need someone who knows about Maths now!

Blandmum · 17/09/2007 14:29

TBH the system has just changed ....this year's y11 children will be the first ones to do the full syllabus, so most parents in the UK are confused by all of this!

KTeePee · 17/09/2007 14:32

Just checked the school's website and all children do either the Additional Science GCSE or Applied Science GCSE in Yr 11. Is there any point at this stage in looking at which exam boards the school uses for GCSEs and A levels? Does it matter in any way?

Blandmum · 17/09/2007 14:39

Applied since is a lttle different, that doe limit a child a bit. We tend to only let the less scientificaly able/motivated do applied acience. It would limit them to doing applied science at AS level, and they couldn't do Biology , chem or physics.

Exam boards are much of a muchness, I have a slight refernce for the Edexcel 360 course over the science for the 21st centuary.

But to be cynical , none of them are fantastic, and they all lack scientific 'rigor' IYSWIM.

KTeePee · 17/09/2007 18:39

Yes the school makes it clear that doing Applied Science will prevent students from taking science at AS level.

Thanks for all your help!

Blandmum · 17/09/2007 18:46

We run Applied science AS/A2 levels, and the students do a bit of Biology/physics/ Chemistry in that. You couldn't really get into uni to do an 'accademic' science degree with Applied science, it would be more appropirate for more vocational courses. We also obviously offer the straightforward A levels in Bio/ Chem and Phys.

Applied science is a good course for students who are more interested in the more vocational aspects of science

dayofftomorrow · 19/09/2007 10:23

Don't forget you are also having to base your decision on what a school will be like over the next seven years (more if you have several dcs) One of our local schools had a poor reputation in science about five years ago changed some of the staff and had a complete turnaround, for another school it was similar situation in music and art.

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