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School says my son must cut his hair or be excluded

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alexis52 · 13/03/2020 10:04

I have 2 children 1boy aged11 1 girl aged 14. They both go to that same school but recently they have a new head master who changed some of the uniform policy's. to begin with they were good changes like skirts can't be shorter than the knee and ties had to come down to the stomach but then he changed the hair policies. This did not effect my daughter because she fell into all the categories but it did effect my son. His hair is about an inch or so past his shoulder, the head said that boys hair must not come over The colour and I got an email telling me to cut his hair. I have refused to cut his hair and long hair doesn't effect his work because he ties it up for certain classes like PE and cookery and doesn't play with it. The school have now threatened that if I don't cut his hair soon he will be excluded .

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AnneLovesGilbert · 13/03/2020 12:18

It’s absolutely a hill I’d choose to die on. They can’t ban long hair if it’s for religious or cultural reasons, they can’t ban long hair on girls, they therefore can’t ban it in boys. Ridiculous.

And fuck off to the inevitable and unimaginative snowflake comments. Better to raise someone with a questioning mind than a sheep.

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PanamaPattie · 13/03/2020 12:20

How incredibly petty of the Head. Trying to make a name for themselves. Tie too short or hair too long. Bonkers.

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Georgie31 · 13/03/2020 12:31

I find this extremely sexist!!! Girls can have hair as long as they like but boys can't!! I'm shocked really shocked! How would they handle this if a child was struggling with their gender identity?! If your son likes his hair the way that it is I would refuse to cut it out of principle really.

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Crackerofdoom · 13/03/2020 12:31

I can't believe this is still happening. I remember my parents going into the school to defend his long hair 30 years ago. The school backed down in the end.

He got great exam results and is now a teacher himself (still with long hair)

I know that for a lot of people it isn't a big deal and he should just cut it but it is the thin end of the wedge.

I would fight it in your position.

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Crackerofdoom · 13/03/2020 12:32

Sorry-the him is my older brother

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Giganticshark · 13/03/2020 12:43

Tell them he identifies as a girl, as they're allowed long hair. Problem sorted

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JudyCoolibar · 13/03/2020 13:01

The head is acting unlawfully. As people have said, this is clear discrimination. Further, the official school exclusion guidance says that it is not appropriate to exclude pupils for uniform issues.

Point out to him and the governors that flouting the law is a seriously bad example to set to the school's pupils.

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JudyCoolibar · 13/03/2020 13:02

Ridiculous snowflake nonsense

Why do people not realise that as soon as they resort to the "snowflake" terminology they have exposed themselves as unimaginative bigots and have lost the argument?

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JudyCoolibar · 13/03/2020 13:04

If your DS is given a similar request but can't/won't, then this becomes a health and safety issue and I agree with the school.

It's only a health and safety issue in certain lessons like some science and DT lessons, and possibly PE. If he can't tie it back due to a disability, the school needs to help him under its duty to make reasonable adjustments.

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clpsmum · 13/03/2020 13:09

Do not cut his hair. This is wrong on every level go to cab and read through the equality act

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clpsmum · 13/03/2020 13:10

@Growingboys poor boy if his mother ignored the fact her children were being treated differently because of their gender. Not a snowflake at all. It's discrimination.

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Comefromaway · 13/03/2020 13:12

It's only a health and safety issue in certain lessons like some science and DT lessons, and possibly PE. If he can't tie it back due to a disability, the school needs to help him under its duty to make reasonable adjustments.

Absolutely this. The same would apply to a child unable to tie shoe laces for PE.

I am personally in favour of a all long hair must be tied back at all times rule for boys and girls but if this is not the rule for girls it shouldn't be any different for boys.

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RiftGibbon · 13/03/2020 13:13

Sexist and ridiculous. Either all pupils have shory hair, or long hair is tied back.
Why are we so obsessed with conforming rather than focusing on ability/competence?

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Sunny4876 · 13/03/2020 13:16

Tell him to put it up in a man bun every morning,above the collar then like they've asked for Grin

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Alanna1 · 13/03/2020 13:19

I would contact the EHRC for advice and ask them if they would write to the school about discrimination.

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Miriel · 13/03/2020 13:23

It's discrimination unless they're also requiring girls to have short hair. A rule that hair must be either short or tied back is reasonable. This isn't. I wouldn't just make him get a haircut to avoid conflict, either. Uniform clothes can be taken off after school. Cutting your hair changes how you look all the time. Unfair rules need to be challenged.

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Hersetta427 · 13/03/2020 13:25

Cut his hair or withdraw him and find another school - those are your options.

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alexis52 · 13/03/2020 13:27

Tell him to put it up in a man bun every morning,above the collar
He can't really put his hair in a bun because it isn't long enough so I just put it in a ponytail at the crown of his head that's keeps it off his collar and out his face

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titchy · 13/03/2020 13:37

So if his hair is in a pony tail there's no problem is that right? In which case put it in a fucking ponytail - it takes about 5 seconds. Bollocks you don't have enough time - that's looking for a reason to complain.

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JudyCoolibar · 13/03/2020 13:46

Cut his hair or withdraw him and find another school - those are your options.

No, they aren't. The realistic option is to point out to the school that this is unlawful discrimination and to suggest that they take urgent legal advice. If that doesn't work, there are further options in terms of legal challenges. It's really important that equality rights aren't allowed to erode.

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JudyCoolibar · 13/03/2020 13:47

So if his hair is in a pony tail there's no problem is that right? In which case put it in a fucking ponytail

No, it isn't right. The school is telling him he must get his hair cut.

How hard can it be to read the original post properly?

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FrancisCrawford · 13/03/2020 13:51

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BreatheAndFocus · 13/03/2020 13:56

The hair rule should be the same for boys and girls. It’s usually something like “Hair that comes below the shoulders should be tied back”. That’s fine.

OP, tell them it’s sex discrimination but make sure your son’s hair is neat and tied back for school. That way they can’t say it looks scruffy and they can’t say it’s a Health and Safety matter.

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SarahTancredi · 13/03/2020 13:59

How can he learn to tie it back without having the hair to practice on?

If he was an NT child who was being lazy etc it would be different but if he needs practice then surely it would be treated as we treated our toddler and small girls who we did their hair until they were able to do it themselves...

If it's just a case of putting it up it's a few seconds could probably get up a few minutes earlier to get it done. But it's just plain cruel to cut it off cos some sexist twit said so.

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nothingcanhurtmewithmyeyesshut · 13/03/2020 14:01

Its sex discrimination! If it was bright blue I could understand but why should boys have short hair? To fit an outdated gender stereotype?

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