Help ! Really bad science gcse mock results

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Exactly that ds doing combined higher level science and got a 1 in physics 4 in biology and 4 in chemistry bringing score down to 2 and 3. He revised ! Well at least he wS looking at a book ! Really have no idea what to do from here - I try to help him but he won’t accept help says he’s 15 and knows how to revise ! Obviously not . Any ideas ? Crammer courses ?

@teenplustwenties. Perhaps it is in pet because they wouldn't want to report taking foundation in their results, as not being aligned with a selective intake?

At my DS1's school they do the sciences separately so they can just do two and I think one boy who was struggling generally may have dropped to one, so he was only doing 9 in total

But I agree that a double or quits approach may not be very helpful in this case

Results don't state the tier, just the grade, so 4, 5. If he's going to get a U that will look a lot worse than 4-4 (which could be higher anyway).

OP don't take this badly but my Ds2, who is strong in science, said he looked at a foundation paper and it was genuinely much easier. It might be really helpful for your ds to do foundation. Please have a look at some papers with him.

I'd be asking questions about what happened between the 7 in a test and the much lower marks in the mocks. Was the test just much easier? If he knew the material for a test "not revising" is not the whole answer, as he should have retained some of the information.

My DS is getting 4s on highers but very solid 5s on foundation. The depth of knowledge and ability to apply it required is much less for foundation than higher.
The advice from school is that he is probably capable of 6+, but unless the science is really needed he might be better just "banking" the 5s for foundation (to be fair, DS has considerations outside of science which will feed into this decision) rather than risking no grade at all. At first I was horrified by the idea that he might get a lower grade than he is capable of, but actually have come round to thinking this approach makes a lot of sense. Will anyone really care in the future that he got a 5 and not a 6?

I can't help feeling that OP's "we don't do foundation" stance is primarily for the good of the school, not the good of the student.

TreeClimbingCat I'm a science teacher and I have found that very useful. Thank you!

He ideally needs a 5 at science particularly biology to do psychology a level
OP for Combined Science when pupils receive their actual results they are not given separate grades/marks for Biology, Chemistry and Physics. So the particularly Biology isn't relevant.

To all the above advice I would add that he needs to revise by answering questions from memory then checking his answers against those given. Lots of revision papers out there. As a science teacher I can tell you that revising simply by reading the texts is a very poor method

If he got a 1 in Physics surely he sat the foundation paper?

If he got a 1 in Physics surely he sat the foundation paper?

I'm guessing the school would have "invented" a 1 if they don't generally offer foundation.
on the basis that you only need about 25% for a 4 on the higher paper, he must have scarcely got any marks at all. That's why so many posters are suggesting moving to foundation might be better!

The school are inventing all the individual subject grades if he is doing combined.
Agree with all the revision suggestions but honestly he needs to do foundation, with all his other subjects as well to work on he is really unlikely to improve from 3 2 to more than 5 5 ( max on foundation)
Seriously you need to tell the school he will be doing foundation, and repeat what is mentioned up thread, a 5 5 is much better for him and their results than a u.
No one will ever know whether he sat FT orHT after the event.
Go on the aqa website and look at the difference in the two tiers of papers.

I had this with my DS. I basically did his whole revision plan, bought revision books and planned chapter by chapter, and printed out loads abd loads of past papers which I marked and went through with him.

It's he past papers that cracked it I think although the knowledge needs to be there from the revision books.

I also had to actually physically sit with him for the entire thing too which was exhausting and hideous for both of us but he has ASC and ADHD so you may not need to do this part of you know he will crack on with structure and direction.

He ended up getting 100% in a few of his final papers!

He got 20% on higher paper

This will vary by board and by cohort (and of course your school might have used its own mock papers which are easier or harder than real exam papers) but based on past results, roughly speaking you need to look at 25% or more for a 4-4, 35% or more for a 5-5 and 45% or more for a 6-6.
That's across the total of all 6 papers (2 for each science).

The two crucial points IMO are the boundary for a 4-4, below which a student will get a "U" (which is actually what OP's DS got in mocks) and the boundary for a 6-6 (which is where it makes some sense sitting higher rather than foundation).

OP, as others have said, you need to asap work out "why" your DS is scoring as he is and consider how much this can realistically change in the next 3 months.

Thanks @TreeClimbingCat I have sent your MARK thing to my DCs who are doing GCSEs and A-Levels.

the school seem to be making up their own grade boundaries. For last years Combined Science paper see link 20% would be grade 43 if he obtained that mark across all 3 subjects'
Link for AQA here [https://filestore.aqa.org.uk/over/stat_pdf/AQA-GCSE-GDE-BDY-JUN-2019.PDF]