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Islington secondaries

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ElkieMacjibe · 22/01/2020 13:38

Like many before me I am looking ahead and debating whether or not to stay in London long term or if we might brave a move to the suburbs. Schools are obviously a big factor (although a way off, have two DS, 2y and 4m). I'm not so worried about primaries as it seems there are a lot of options but seeking views on whether there are good state secondary options in Islington? If useful we are currently around Highbury but likely to move in next few years (either within Islington or out).

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PatienceVirtue · 22/01/2020 15:28

Tbh it's quite hard to predict as things change rapidly. Islington secondaries used to be pretty bad, then they were great (none were rated less than good or outstanding), now some are good some not so...

I can tell you what the word on the street is about various schools now but I guarantee it will have all changed in two years time, let alone nine. So, currently, Mary Mags is most sought after for boys/co-ed, for girls it's Highbury Girls. Central gets great results but I'm not sure it's a particularly happy environment.

ElkieMacjibe · 22/01/2020 16:27

That's helpful thanks. Mary Mags is very close to us so good to know! But yes I take your point a lot is likely to change.

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JungeTraktoristin · 22/01/2020 16:55

I would add to the helpful PP above, that you also need to be honest with yourself about what kind of parent you are.

I've had four kids go through Islington and Camden secondary schools, as well as all the various schools their friends have been to, and I know dc who have done really well (as in straight A* and Russell Group or Oxbridge uni kind of well) at just about all the local schools, including the ones that are not remotely on the fashionable middle-class radar.

Looking back at my dc and their peers, what is striking is that all the dc have done pretty much as well as you would have predicted for them at the age of 9, based on the child's ability and personality, regardless of the kinds of schools they went to - I know dc who went to really tough schools who did the straight A* and Oxbridge route, and others whose parents prepped them very hard for private or state selective who have come out with very average kinds of grades. One of my dc was at a school that lost its headteacher halfway through his time there, followed by a terrible Ofsted and teachers leaving in droves - it was not a nice experience and I wouldn't recommend it, but my dc's very average grades were entirely down to his lack of hard work, and plenty of his friends did very well indeed, despite the chaos.

So as long as you find a school which has a reasonable number of kids getting the kinds of grades you would envisage your child getting, it's probably safe to assume that your child can do well there too. But you need to be comfortable enough with your choice and have enough confidence in your child to ride out the inevitable ups and downs - if you are the kind of parent who in Reception can't resist checking other children's bookbags when they come for playdates, and who will panic and stress if the other dc is several reading bands higher than your own, then you will find many state secondaries (not just in Islington) will give you plenty of opportunities to twitch anxiously and stress over whether you should have gone private after all.

In the final analysis you just need to find a school where you think your child will be happy and where you can see that the teaching is good enough that your child can get the grades they are capable of. Open evenings are surprisingly revealing, and if you do the rounds in Y5 and then again in Y6, you should get a good steer for what schools appeal to you and which ones you find off-putting, and those things may not correlate with published exam results or with the popular m/c fashion.

It's really not as scary as it seems. Smile

marytuda · 22/01/2020 17:17

Wow lovely post Junge just happened to drop in on this thread in idle moment . . . So pertinent of you to remind us all that so long as a school is not completely non-functional, its Ofsted rating and league table position (not to mention whether its a grammar or 'indie') is less important than child's happiness there and level of family support.
As parents I do think we frequently stress ourselves to bits over things that matter far less than we think they do. And the must-have school is one of them. Exam grades probably another. Hence the tutoring industry is what it is, ditto current state of teenage mental health.

PETRONELLAS · 22/01/2020 17:52

Some places are kept for Islington residents as part of Dane Alice Owen’s in Potters Bar. 20 a year I think. Have to sit 11+. It’s a very successful partly selective mixed secondary.

ElkieMacjibe · 22/01/2020 18:07

Thanks Junge, I read a book The Mother of All Jobs and that is what I took from it re primary schools but you are right, the same applies to secondary. For us private is not an option so I suppose I just wanted some reassurance that there are at least a few reasonable state options (not growing up in London it's hard to know the truth about London schools really). I went to a private secondary outside London and am of the view that the real benefit was the extra curricular activities so in an ideal world my DC would go to a reasonably good state and we'd throw some money at extra curricular to supplement!

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JungeTraktoristin · 22/01/2020 18:33

You sound like the kind of parent who can cope with a few bumps along the way without having a fit of the vapours, so that's a good start... Grin

There's so much fabulous extra-curricular in London, and the dc can mainly travel there independently, which is brilliant for their confidence and saves a lot of parental ferrying. And IME it's good for them to have different groups of friends from their various activities - my dc have all commented at some point that they'd find it a bit claustrophobic to be doing all their activities with the same group of people they see at school all day.

And if you stay in North London you'll have access to the wonderful Woodhouse College for 6th form, where my reprobate dc redeemed his very average GCSEs with some astonishingly good A-level grades - it's a brilliant place, where they really bring out the best in dc of all abilities.

Zinnia · 22/01/2020 19:53

JungeTraktoristin's post should be pinned to the top of the Secondary board for all time. I think it's just about the most sensible thing I've ever read on here.

HPFA · 24/01/2020 10:55

I agree - Junge post is terrific. Just post it on every education thread.

Smallinthesmoke · 24/01/2020 11:16

Hear hear JungeTraktoristin

Vinorosso74 · 24/01/2020 17:24

My DD is in Y5 so I've looked around some secondaries already. Highbury Fields was our top choice Islington secondary but that's just girls. We have other higher preferences in Camden however.... I looked at Islington Arts and Media School (aka AMSI) and it doesn't get great academic results but I quite liked it. I know a couple of kids there who are getting on well and it seems to have good pastoral care. Wasn't keen on Highgate Hill but know of a kid whose quite happy there.
Acland Burghley is in Camden right on the Islington border. That seems to be the school of choice right now but the cut off has shrunk. I liked it and the head but again not first choice (actually DD would have a low chance of a place anyway).
Thing is it varies so much on your kids and what is right for them.

Vinorosso74 · 24/01/2020 17:25

And yes Junge some very sensible points!

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Eatenpig · 28/07/2021 22:49

@JungeTraktoristin

I would add to the helpful PP above, that you also need to be honest with yourself about what kind of parent you are.

I've had four kids go through Islington and Camden secondary schools, as well as all the various schools their friends have been to, and I know dc who have done really well (as in straight A* and Russell Group or Oxbridge uni kind of well) at just about all the local schools, including the ones that are not remotely on the fashionable middle-class radar.

Looking back at my dc and their peers, what is striking is that all the dc have done pretty much as well as you would have predicted for them at the age of 9, based on the child's ability and personality, regardless of the kinds of schools they went to - I know dc who went to really tough schools who did the straight A* and Oxbridge route, and others whose parents prepped them very hard for private or state selective who have come out with very average kinds of grades. One of my dc was at a school that lost its headteacher halfway through his time there, followed by a terrible Ofsted and teachers leaving in droves - it was not a nice experience and I wouldn't recommend it, but my dc's very average grades were entirely down to his lack of hard work, and plenty of his friends did very well indeed, despite the chaos.

So as long as you find a school which has a reasonable number of kids getting the kinds of grades you would envisage your child getting, it's probably safe to assume that your child can do well there too. But you need to be comfortable enough with your choice and have enough confidence in your child to ride out the inevitable ups and downs - if you are the kind of parent who in Reception can't resist checking other children's bookbags when they come for playdates, and who will panic and stress if the other dc is several reading bands higher than your own, then you will find many state secondaries (not just in Islington) will give you plenty of opportunities to twitch anxiously and stress over whether you should have gone private after all.

In the final analysis you just need to find a school where you think your child will be happy and where you can see that the teaching is good enough that your child can get the grades they are capable of. Open evenings are surprisingly revealing, and if you do the rounds in Y5 and then again in Y6, you should get a good steer for what schools appeal to you and which ones you find off-putting, and those things may not correlate with published exam results or with the popular m/c fashion.

It's really not as scary as it seems. Smile

Fantastic post. Totally my experience and that of so many I know. I have friends whose kids went to the 'amazing outstanding blah blah' high school that people move house to get in to. (They just happened to be close). They came out with grades around what you would have predicted at Yr5/6. Totally mid range. I know kids who went to very expensive schools and didn't get near a Russell group uni etc
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