11plus

[oneboy3girls]

Cat Score Verbal=120.Non Verbal =105 Quantitative== 124 Spatial= 108 Average =114 .Son =yr 7

Would my son have passed the 11plus with these scores .I presume it may vary depending on the Grammar.Thanks.

JoJo,

Nothing you have said changes the basic point - that a non-grammar in a grammar system has an profile of attainment different from that of a comprehensive school within a comprehensive system.

Yes, non grammars will have SOME higher attainers. However, because the grammars take more of the higher attainers, the non-grammars will, by definition, have fewer.

My DCs attended a non-grammar in a partially grammar system - a very good, very high attaining, 'almost comp'. However, some of the Y6s who lived in the surrounding area and would have gone there in a true comprehensive system did not, and instead went to grammars. However many HA children were left, it was still fewer than the proportion of those children within the effective catchment, if that makes sense?

I do, however, completely understand the point that not knowing whether the OP lives near Kent, or a similar fully grammar system, with 20-25% of children in grammars, or an area with a tiny number of grammars, does change the profile of children in the grammars.

cantkeepawayforever,

Ideology aside, I don’t think that for an individual child it matters whether there’s a selective school down the road as long as their own school is good and able to stretch them + has top sets doing the more demanding courses at a high level.

But you accept that it is less likely that a viable top set doing the most demanding courses will be present if a selective school is down the road, simply because there will be fewer high ability pupils in the non-grammar school?

It is a numbers game, in the end - and the same applies to teachers best able to teach those most able children - as a teacher who enjoys that particular challenge, would you tend to apply to work in a school with 5-10% high ability children, or one with 50%+?