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A useful app to know about local schools - shocked!

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BillysMum36 · 05/12/2019 11:35

I just looked at this and put in my postcode and am really shocked about more cuts to the schools my son is likely to go to.

My sister is a teacher and says there is almost nothing more than can be cut without endangering the children. Almost a £500+ cut in every school in our area!!

schoolcuts.org.uk/

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TheletterZ · 05/12/2019 12:24

Near me all the secondaries go up and the juniors and infants slightly down.

XelaM · 05/12/2019 12:52

Every school in my area will be cut by the conservatives! At some schools - over £1000 per child Shock That's scary!

Justajot · 05/12/2019 13:00

I'm not a Tory by a long stretch, but I have real doubts about the answer on my DD's school. It is one that will gain from the NFF, yet the website says using NFF data the funding will go down.

scrappydappydoo · 05/12/2019 13:03

Our schools are slightly up. However, what I suspect it doesn’t include is all the peripheral cuts like school transport which is a big issue in our area - all under a Conservative led council.

BubblesBuddy · 05/12/2019 14:59

Our LA has gone up from the 6th lowest spending LA to the 15th lowest spending LA. It’s been down the bottom for decades. Budgets are tight but they’ve never been good. We now have no government grant at all. It’s a frugal LA. Yes it’s Conservative but we’ve never had the money that some LAs have! All our AWPUs are predicted to go up. Very well resourced LAs will go down but that doesn’t make a school dangerous. None of ours are! That’s over dramatic!

You can look at what each school spends it’s money on via the govt web site. It’s interesting how many tiny schools keep going where shed loads of money are spent on small classes and teaching costs are astronomic. If schools were rationalised and smaller ones merged, there would be more money because you would save on SLT costs. Schools need to get more creative!

BubblesBuddy · 05/12/2019 15:06

Our funding can only reduce by 1.5% pa as we have a minimum funding guarantee so I’m querying some of these figures. I was also suggesting merging of primary schools but some secondaries should do this where they are geographically close.

BubblesBuddy · 05/12/2019 15:06

Gosh!!! 1.5% per pupil AWPU!

SpruceTree · 05/12/2019 16:56

Is this app run by one of the political parties by any chance?
I know all the different parties use social media sites like MN to try and influence people.

MrsMaiselsMuff · 05/12/2019 17:01

@SpruceTree No, it's not, and the IFS has verified that the data presented is accurate. Did you not see all the headteachers marching on Downing Street about all the cuts?

Dauphinois · 05/12/2019 17:12

That site doesn't give the whole picture. Many schools self generate income though running wrap around care, preschools, letting their facilities etc. Government funding is just one income stream.

admission · 05/12/2019 18:13

The site is quoting figures that they have calculated using their own methodology based on what the various political parties are saying that they will put into schools in the way of extra funding. How much you want to believe of the latest pronouncements on funding is up to individuals but it is does seem rather biased one way.
What I can say that is fact and real is that whilst this website says that my school is getting a theoretical £81000 cut in funding, the t formal papers at the meeting of my local schools forum indicate that for 2020-21 financial year, my school will receive £73,000 extra in funding from 2019-20. My preference is to believe and work on what I can see in writing in front of me, rather than theoretical figures that will probably never come into reality.

Witchend · 05/12/2019 19:16

That's a labour developed site at a rough guess. Grin

The Bots are getting very slightly subtler aren't they?

In my area the schools I know are similar to what admission says. They've been given an increase in funding, but according to this site it's going down considerably.
Interestingly, roughly the more "middle class" area they are the more Labour's apparently putting it up on this site. Oh except for the two areas which are very tight on the Labour vote. which apparently it's going up. Hmm!
And at a couple of schools they apparently don't have data-but it's marked with a big -£ sign. There's also at least 3 schools missing entirely.

PopGoesTheWeaz · 05/12/2019 21:24

Is funding going up but funding per pupil going down? or funding per pubil with inflation taken into account going down?

ForeverbyJudyBlume · 06/12/2019 09:58

Interesting the OP only posts Labour propaganda on here

BubblesBuddy · 06/12/2019 13:50

There is no inflation figure. LAs work out the AWPU based on their funds. Schools should have a minimum funding guarantee as I said above. This prevents catastrophic falls in income. Falling school rolls is a huge driver of school income. There is truth in the unpalatable situation that some DC have been resourced far more favourably than others. There have been changes to even this out. Some LAs near London will have higher staffing costs. Other schools will have considerable pp income. I would look at which LAs are near the bottom of the AWPU spend and worry about them. Bloated ones near the top could exist on less money like the middle or lower ranked ones. To some extent, this is what is happening.

MiniEggAddiction · 06/12/2019 14:26

That site doesn't give the whole picture. Many schools self generate income though running wrap around care, preschools, letting their facilities etc. Government funding is just one income stream.

Schools generally only do these things if they're desperate for more funding and it makes up a tiny proportion of their budget. Schools are meant to be funded by the government - imagining they can somehow be self supporting is ridiculous.

Trewser · 06/12/2019 14:30

It's produced by the unions so i don't trust it.

avocadoze · 10/12/2019 16:57

The bots are producing some strong gusts today. I can see that this data isn’t right for my local school.

Trewser · 10/12/2019 18:32

Nor mine.

Raspberry123 · 10/12/2019 20:40

The primaries around us all gain except with the Lib Dems!

Walkingtheplank · 11/12/2019 00:17

Our local schools are up by 7%. That's fantastic. Thanks BillysMum for letting us know how the Conservative government is investing in our local schools! Great stuff!Smile

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