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How much to help with homework

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hairyheadphones · 25/09/2019 18:37

My DS just started year 7. He has multiple SEN including dyslexia. DSs verbal abilities are far beyond his ability to get his work in paper.
He’s been asked to write a story for English. It is so full of mistakes. Do I sit with him and help him work them out or should he hand in his work as he’s written it so his teacher can see exactly where he needs support?

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TeenPlusTwenties · 25/09/2019 19:27

At this point in y7 I would let him hand it in so the teacher can see where he is at.

In KS3 I often helped DD with maths h/w. I always indicated where I had helped. But my premise was that time spent with me helping 1-1 so she understood the maths was much better than her handing in a sheet that was all wrong.

hairyheadphones · 25/09/2019 19:38

Thanks, that’s what I was feeling too. I have helped him with all his other homework but felt he should do this one alone so the teacher can see where he needs help.

I feel quite shocked at how difficult writing is for him, his primary school work that I saw (he refused to do any homework for yr 5&6) was of a better standard but I suspect his TA corrected him as he went along.

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JoJoSM2 · 25/09/2019 20:31

I’d get him to hand in as is so the teacher can see where he’s at. For his learning, though, I’d do a bit with him. Even if he is able to learn a couple of spellings, that’s always something.

Lougle · 25/09/2019 20:46

In that situation, let him hand it in. DD2 gets very anxious and I would assist with her homework with practicalities, but made sure that she achieved the learning objective. For example, she had a listening and reading task in French. I made her do the listening and reading, but let her tell me where to drag the phrases/click the correct answers. Doing that sounds silly, as she can do it, but it reduced her anxiety so that she can tackle her homework.

TeenPlusTwenties · 25/09/2019 21:06

Does he type? Would that help with spelling checker on?
What does the SENCO suggest?

hairyheadphones · 25/09/2019 22:19

TeenPlusTwenties I let him type up the story. In class much of his written work is being done by the TA - he’s supposed to have a laptop to use in class but that hasn’t appeared yet.

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LolaSmiles · 26/09/2019 10:51

I think I would help them edit, but do it in another colour. Then you can always talk to the teacher about their difficulties.

What you describe in the difference between primary writing and secondary independent writing is really common. Every year I see lots of students with expected standard/greater depth tell me that they wrote their stories on paper, the teacher told them where they'd made mistakes and then copied them up in neat, or they'd be taken to another room with a TA and the TA would tell them where to put the punctuation, or they'd start the piece of big writing in English on the morning, but all afternoon was also given to completing it (but the book suggests it's one lesson).

Then some, not all, primary colleagues have the nerve to complain and belittle secondary staff because the handwriting at secondary isn't as nice, all their children always used semi colons in every piece, our stories (planned in 1 lesson and written in 45-60mins) aren't as long as their stories which were planned over 4 mornings of English and then had most of a day to write it up.

I sympathise with KS2 pressure, but I think on writing there's some additional help that goes in for some students to get them over a line which suggests they are more able independently than they actually are.

hairyheadphones · 26/09/2019 11:36

Thanks for replying Lola. Annoyingly I emailed the document to myself and google made some corrections.
The preview in the email gives me the first part of the original but the pdf containing the whole story has been corrected.
The original contained -

I was going on what seemed to be a normal walk on a beach, as i blencht evrey one was gone then the snad what was nomel is now qwivk sand as it drages me down in to is moth for a secend I was gonea die but insted I was put in a place it was pick black

Google changed it to (and I can’t recover the original)

I was going on what seemed to be a normal walk on a beach, as i blench everyone was gone then the sand what was nomel is now quicksand as it drags me down into his mouth for a second I was gonna die but instead I was put in a place it was pick black

I won’t correct it any further and next time learn how to use google docs properly so it doesn’t auto correct a whole price of work. Having a true representation of his work will hopefully mean we can get some writing interventions written into his next EHCP review.

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