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Secret report reveals government fear of schools chaos after no-deal Brexit

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woman19 · 03/08/2019 21:58

Imagine living in a 'developed' rich country which could do this to its kids.

Imagine living in a 'developed' rich country in which teachers and mothers tolerate this.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/03/secret-education-report-no-deal-brexit-school-chaos

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BubblesBuddy · 04/08/2019 00:24

Imagine a country where over 50% voted for this!

admission · 04/08/2019 17:37

Whilst there are some things that are obvious that could happen, as in some transport delays in Kent if there are issues at the channel ports, I find the majority of the rest of the document just scaremongering based on coming up with the worst possible scenario. Three months after brexit actually happens is the time when everybody will have a much better idea about the effects of the decision to leave the EU and they can then be dealt with.

TeenTimesTwo · 04/08/2019 20:19

Surely the whole point of risk assessing for a no-deal situation, is to think of worst case scenarios and then plan how to prevent/mitigate?

A bit like the y2k software problem. Companies put a lot of effort into checking and fixing all their software to ensure that there weren't problems on 1/1/2000.

SJane48S · 04/08/2019 20:55

Such a complete & utter shambles! My DH is on the governing board of our local Primary in Kent - other than a little food stock piling there has been little they can actually plan for and I imagine the majority of schools are the same. I do wonder what the reaction of this largely pro Brexit part of the world will be when our villages are turned into lorry parks in a no deal scenario -mass indignation with absolutely no self recognition I imagine!

Pineapple1 · 17/08/2019 10:59

It's going to happen, we will middle through, get over it.

sackrifice · 17/08/2019 11:02

Imagine living in a 'developed' rich country in which teachers and mothers tolerate this

Why is it down to teachers and mothers?

Is that because a high proportion of mumsnet is one or the other?

Have you also posted this on Men's forums and blamed them for tolerating this?

SJane48S · 19/08/2019 09:40

Perhaps she has? Although not much point in addressing the general population in here really is it? And as for just sucking it up and ‘middling’ or even ‘muddling’ through it, if no deal goes ahead it’s going to be absolute shambles for this country. Some of us feel a more responsible attitude is to not lie down and die but keep the pressure up. You of course are free to do what you like and get on with the stockpiling.

SJane48S · 19/08/2019 09:45

'on here' not 'in here' (completely undermines arguement by not checking hastily written message, particularly when I've picked up on someone else's spelling! Any rude responses probably deserved! ;-) )

Pineapple1 · 19/08/2019 11:19

@SJane48S

Meh, I'll middle through, I doubt it's going to effect me much. I'll happily keep going to work, teaching the next generation. Then cuddling my children.

Everyone moves on, time keeps going, clocks keep ticking.

Only those who are in denial will get stressed and burst a blood vessel trying to stop what will happen.
It's like trying to stop the clock from reaching 7pm... It's going to do it... Get over it

SJane48S · 19/08/2019 11:30

It's a bit primary school the whole 'get over it, we won, you lost' line though isn't it? With no one on the Leave side actually having any clue what they've actually won but hoping that it turns out to be really really nice! Anyway, I'll keep on keeping my head out of the sand personally but each to their own and you crack on!

woman19 · 02/09/2019 10:13

Brexit: Leaked report reveals government bracing for school closures and meal shortages in the event of ‘no deal

A dossier compiled by the Department of Education also warns of a possible teacher shortage due to travel disruption in some regions

inews.co.uk/news/brexit/brexit-leaked-report-department-education-government-bracing-for-school-chaos-after-no-deal/

Parents who are relieved that schools in england go back this week may find that this term may be very short.

From November, post 'brexit' crash out, schools may have problems staying open.

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admission · 02/09/2019 15:01

Whilst it is obvious that there could be some potential disruption to transport in the Dover area, to convert that into possible teaching shortages (more than there already is) is definitely just scare-mongering.
All teachers have a contractual duty to get into work and there is no reason to suggest that anything will happen but that that.

DontMakeMeShushYou · 02/09/2019 15:19

Meh, I'll middle through, I doubt it's going to effect me much. I'll happily keep going to work, teaching the next generation. Then cuddling my children.

Are you teaching the next generation to middle through too?

Piggywaspushed · 02/09/2019 16:39

shush Grin

It's a concern, really. you didn't notice the effect

Pineapple1 · 02/09/2019 17:05

@DontMakeMeShushYou

Well done, you caught a spelling mistake.
Like many others, I use my phone to type here. The 'u' and 'i' keys are next to eachother. Just like on all QWERTY keyboards.
Overlaps happen.

I'm sure you felt better about yourself spotting it.

Pineapple1 · 02/09/2019 17:12

@SJane48S

I voted Remain... Yet I still accept the result

steppemum · 02/09/2019 17:17

I've read it.
so basically there may be problems with school dinners.
Some teachers, especially in kent may have problems getting to work.

I cannot see where the general chaos, school closures and exam disruption comes from.
I hate Brexit. But this is just silly scaremongering.

Peaseblossom22 · 02/09/2019 17:18

You can accept the result but still feel annoyed that it’s not been implemented and has resulted in chaos. It’s not the leaving the problem it’s the shambolic and inefficient implementation

BogglesGoggles · 02/09/2019 17:21

We regularly can’t get our son to school due to moderate snowfall. Brexit or no brexit this country isn’t exactly functioning smoothly 🤷‍♀️

woman19 · 02/09/2019 17:33

All teachers have a contractual duty to get into work and there is no reason to suggest that anything will happen but that that

No petrol = no teachers= no schools.

Kent won't be the only place affected; it wasn't in 2000.

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DontMakeMeShushYou · 02/09/2019 17:50

@Pineapple1

Well done, you caught a spelling mistake.

Why, thank you!
Although to be fair, I had just assumed it was a simple typo in your first post. It was your repetition of the same mistake two days later that caught my attention. I wondered whether you were muddled about the correct form of the phrase. And the use of effect just added to the ... effect, I guess (but I didn't mention that as lots of people have trouble with affect/effect and I was more interested to see whether you genuinely thought the phrase was middling through).

@Piggywaspushed
Yes, I had noticed but thought it would be mean to point that out as well. :D

Piggywaspushed · 02/09/2019 18:05

Teachers do not have a contractual duty to get to work if they can't get to work.

The end of LAs meant that many years ago the contractual obligation to report to the nearest school was scrapped.

woman19 · 02/09/2019 18:25

The end of LAs meant that many years ago the contractual obligation to report to the nearest school was scrapped

Good point.

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