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Starting Year 11-GCSE2021 (title edited by MNHQ)

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indy69 · 01/08/2019 05:57

Good morning Mums,

My DD will start her GCSE journey this September. MN always has such good advice that I thought we could have a new thread to support each other. My DD has 4 options apart from English, Science AQA and Maths Edexcel. She has Art and History - Edexcel, and Psychology and Economics - AQA. It wpuld be lovely to know what your DC are doing and we could share resources here. I look forward to meeting you all on this thread. We have 4 weeks to go to start of term and a ton of homework to finish. My DD is feeling too lazy to do anything at the moment, but I guess they have earned the break. I will start reminding her next week about the work. Thanks

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NotDonna · 30/08/2020 23:23

October? Shit, that’s soon!
One MP. I’m not up to speed with ministerial positions - he’s education something but how much clout does he have?
They are going to be assessed to death aren’t they? Needing to provide evidence. I hate our system of learning for exams. It seriously erodes passion for the subject and a general love of learning. Teacher assessment (& external moderation) is probably the way forward but there needs to be a proper process.
Teachers are going to find it difficult to provide evidence of learning if/when huge swathes of syllabus haven’t been covered.

ineedaholidaynow · 30/08/2020 23:38

Labour have a different option

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53966943

NotDonna · 31/08/2020 00:21

Yes, holiday Ofqual were looking into later exams. It was part of their proposal, wasn’t it? But awaiting responses from all countries in U.K. as can’t be an England only decision, if I read it correctly? I’ve no idea what would be the fairest option.

Toobuktim · 31/08/2020 05:20

Here’s the article, I just hope whatever decision they make is done by October!

The chances of GCSE and A-level exams going ahead next summer are only 50:50, according to an influential Tory MP.
Robert Halfon, the chairman of the education select committee, has said he wants the exams regulator Ofqual to be set an October deadline to decide whether to scrap exams next year and again award grades based on teachers’ assessments of children’s results in mock exams and classwork.
He is expected to give Ofqual officials this stark message on Wednesday before telling the education secretary, Gavin Williamson, the same thing when he appears on September 16 for a grilling about this summer’s A-level fiasco.
Halfon, the MP for Harlow, has warned that teenagers may have missed too much schooling to catch up and that a rise in coronavirus infections could force thousands of pupils back into online learning.
His warning about a second wave was brought into focus by a leaked government report that set out the devastation it could bring this winter, with a “reasonable worst case scenario” of 85,000 deaths from the virus across the UK.
The report, details of which have been leaked to us, projects that there will be 77,000 Covid-related deaths in England, 4,000 in Wales, 2,600 in Scotland and 1,900 in Northern Ireland.
Halfon argued that an analysis should be carried out to decide how likely it is that children’s education would be further disrupted by higher infection rates, either locally or nationally.
He said the decision on next summer’s exams should be taken quickly so that teacher assessments could start if necessary, and that pupils should be checked to find out how much remedial help they needed after missing months of lessons.
“It is 50:50 that exams go ahead next summer,” Halfon said. “Schools, the Department for Education and Ofsted need to work out . . . how much disruption there will be to pupils’ learning in the coming year. Serious analysis needs to be done and then they need to make an announcement about exams within the next few weeks.” He said his preferred option would be to delay the exams by several weeks.
In Scotland, pupils are set to be taught a cut-back version of the curriculum and given more choice of exam questions to boost their chances of obtaining good grades. Ofqual was consulting on similar proposals before its chief executive Sally Collier resigned last week.
Halfon said it was vital to avoid another disastrous exams season. His committee was one of the first to sound the alarm about the algorithm blamed for thousands of pupils having scores downgraded. Ofqual officials will be questioned by MPs this week. The government U-turned and accepted teacher assessments of performance.
Steve Chalke, chief executive of Oasis, one of the biggest academy trusts, said: “The shambles of this year’s exam season will be nothing compared with what will happen this coming year if this is not resolved quickly. We need . . . a baked-in decision that people can rely on.”
This weekend, the heads of four education unions wrote to Williamson calling for a back-up plan in case exams are again disrupted by the coronavirus.
The threat to next summer’s exams comes as schools prepare to reopen fully to all pupils. On Friday, Williamson set out a “Plan B” for schools to cope with the risk of pupils having to be taught online this autumn in areas with high rates of Covid-19 infection.
The report on a potential second wave was prepared by the government’s Sage scientific advisory group and was sent to regional planners to enable local authorities to prepare services, including mortuaries and burials. The plan, based on epidemiological modelling, covers a 38-week second wave beginning last month and expected to last until March. It assumes that restrictions on households may be imposed again and a “death rate” from the coronavirus of 0.7%.
Some experts were sceptical of the modelling. Professor Carl Heneghan, director of the centre for evidence-based medicine at Oxford University, said some of the assumptions were “implausible” and assumed “we’ve learnt nothing from the first wave of this disease”.
The government said: “We continue to prepare for a wide range of scenarios. Our planning is not a forecast or prediction of what will happen.”
Ofqual said: “There are no plans to cancel either GCSEs or A-levels in 2021 or to curtail programmes of study. But we keep all plans constantly under review.”

Blubell46 · 31/08/2020 07:54

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-53966943

Hellohah · 31/08/2020 09:16

This whole not sitting the exams is a big worry for me. DS is at a historically rubbish school, they have been in special measures for many years (a low GCSE pass rate of 4 40%), but were taken over by a different Academy, got a new head teacher etc and his year group were going to (hopefully/optimistically) be the first year to reap some rewards of the many improvements.
It has also been mentioned so many times that this year group is a really strong and able cohort (comparatively for the school).
I don't know if I understand the CAGS and algorithm properly, but from all the comments it seems a school couldn't suddenly get better results than previous years? Is this true?
A specific example, one of DS's classmates has a talent for chemistry, he is autistic and suffers with a number of health issues which means his learning time is limited but he has a passion and aptitute for Chemistry and makes sure he attends all those lessons. I was with them at parents evening (I'm friends with his Mum and gave them a lift... Not being a nosey ole) and so know he is predicted and targeted a 9, he is super good. But the school has never got a 9 in Chemistry before... So in the non-exam system he could never get that 9?

indy69 · 31/08/2020 18:35

We are off to school tomorrow. Everyone please stay safe and healthy and hopefully our DC will have no more interruptions in their school life. Also hoping school will not be utterly boring and tedious. Good luck to all.

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Toobuktim · 31/08/2020 18:59

Good luck to you both @indy69!!

Titsywoo · 01/09/2020 00:10

Fingers crossed @indy69! I hope this year isn't as disruptive as I have been worrying it will be. To be honest I think I worried and stressed so much about it all over lockdown that I'm all out of worry! DD did work hard in lockdown (mostly) and she has been doing a lot of set work for French over the holidays and doing more on her art portfolio. She has tutors for maths and science and goes to art classes once a week outside of school (these restart soon) with a wonderful teacher who is happy for her to keep working on her portfolio when there (with lots of great advice and assistance given!). I feel I've done all I can and now she just needs to do her very best.

She starts back on Friday - when do all your DC go back? Is everyone going back full time? A friend of mine has a DC going into year 10 and they are going to be part time (so some remote learning still happening) - I was quite surprised as I thought everyone was supposed to be back fulltime this month?

NotDonna · 01/09/2020 09:22

Yes mine are back for induction days this week and back full time on Monday. The docs from DfE have said rotas aren’t allowed unless you’re in a lockdown area.

Thethingswedoforlove · 01/09/2020 20:46

@notdonna does that apply to sixth form colleges too?

NotDonna · 01/09/2020 22:36

That’s how I read it. But I could be wrong.

indy69 · 02/09/2020 18:37

Thank you@ Toobuktim and @titsywoo. My DD enjoyed the first full day back today. Timetables are being followed and assessments have been announced. Now fingers crossed school will continue to be open.

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therhubarbbrothers · 02/09/2020 21:12

School is, apparently, shit.
DS has a new tutor who wasn't there and the cover tutor lectured them all about making a good first impression. He says he doesn't have a good first impression of his new tutor.

NotDonna · 02/09/2020 22:23

Awww @therhubarbbrothers DS - poor dude! Mine has a half day induction tomorrow. Starts properly on Monday albeit don’t yet know timetable but that’s fine.

Toobuktim · 03/09/2020 05:51

@indy69 I’m glad the day went well! My youngest was back at primary yesterday, today is the first day back for my older two at secondary. No idea on timetables or teachers as yet......I just hope it goes well for them both.

ISBN111 · 03/09/2020 13:51

Hi All, hope first days are going ok all round.
Rhubarb, sounds like your ds knows what is going on! Projection just a little?

I have seen my yr 10’s teacher list but not timetable.... more than half of her teachers are new recruits. Hope she comes back having met some of them today.
My yr 11 has her first day tomorrow. Her teacher list is worryingly short of any science teachers...

I just want them to get to October half term without any local lockdowns.....

ihearttc · 03/09/2020 22:35

DS1 goes back Monday. He has his full 2 week timetable and it looks ok, same teachers as before apart from one which is good.

ISBN111 · 04/09/2020 09:05

Glad your ds doesn’t have too many changes iheart
Dd yr 10 said yesterday was basically a lecture and being shown the one way system, so only seen her form tutor.
Ddyr11 much more anxious about going back today. Fx

Blubell46 · 04/09/2020 17:08

Hi,

My ds was told he does not have oral spanish AQA board GCSE. Has he heard correctly...do you know where I can find out if this is correct?

Thank you

Blubell46 · 04/09/2020 18:07

He might be thinking of his September exams with the excitement- not his best subject rather than the actual GCSE! Thank you

Titsywoo · 04/09/2020 22:44

Well DD came home from her first day in tears so that's a great start!

She felt very pressured as apparently they kept reitterating that there are only 154 days of school left and how this year is so important blah blah. Then her entire art class got in trouble for not bringing in their portfolios (we saw something on FB saying the kids don't need to bring anything in on the first day) and the art teacher told them their portfolios need to be done by 15th Dec as they will be starting the exam work then. I thought Ofqual said there wasn't going to be an art exam? Confused. A bit pissed off this evening tbh. DD is a very sensitive soul and she may have taken things more seriously than necessary but the last thing she needs after a difficult 6 months is more stress. Even her French teacher was saying they are not sure if they will do the speaking exam (again something I thought Ofqual said was no longer happening!).

ineedaholidaynow · 04/09/2020 23:08

Have the exam boards published any guidance yet?

Lowther · 04/09/2020 23:09

Sorry to hear about the bad day titsywoo. I work at school and have been in this week. It has been strange/odd getting to grips with all the new ways and teachers , staff and students have all felt out of sorts. Hopefully having the weekend to calm and recharge the batteries will do us all some good.
Got a call today that DD's surgery postponed from March is now happening on Monday. She starts school on Thursday so I'm hoping she will be ok to go in. She was apprehensive for school and now worrying about surgery. Ahhhhhh!
We decided to go for a Nandos and watch a Harry potter film, again. Feeling better!

TeenPlusTwenties · 05/09/2020 08:30

I'm really worried about next week. I have asked school for DD (who more or less had a breakdown in lockdown) to not attend full time (or even lessons) to start with, but we don't have an agreed plan yet. She is due to start Tuesday.
She also needs to not hear every teacher banging on about how important this year is, so missing the first lesson or two in each subject will be helpful.

On the plus side, we are going to meet a cat today (for DD's mental health), so fingers crossed.