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Did DD deserve distinction in her Eng Lang Speaking assessment?

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ablybably · 05/07/2019 18:49

I randomly checked ShowMyHomework a couple of weeks ago only to find that DD had her GCSE Eng Lang speaking assessment the next day. There was some guidance on what needed to be done - prepare a speech on a topic of their own choice, which needed to be delivered to an audience, and then she would need to answer questions on it.

DD is a high-performing student, but is sometimes complacent because everything comes so naturally to her. Although I would expect her to be more than capable of a distinction with the required amount of effort, on this occasion she seemed very unprepared. Her speech was half written, and didn't seem to me to be particularly sophisticated. She improved it after some feedback, but when she practised it the evening before at home she just read it out from flashcards - and it sounded like it was being read out.

I was worried that she wouldn't fulfil her potential, but it turns out I needn't have fretted because she now has her result - a distinction.

But aibu to secretly wonder if she really earned it? I do wonder if there was an element of the teacher knowing what she was generally capable of and being generous on the back of that.

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Milicentbystander72 · 05/07/2019 18:54

Without meaning to sound rude OP...honesty? Just be proud she got a distinction and don't overthink it. Chances are she winged it slightly on the day and pulled it out if the hat. It has been known.

I was a pretty average student who struggled massively with Maths. However English and History just came easily to me. I hardly ever did any work for English and got top marks every time. I just pulled it from somewhere.

Milicentbystander72 · 05/07/2019 18:58

*honestly

bridgetjonesmassivepants · 05/07/2019 19:04

You do know that the result doesn't actually count towards anything don't you? Also it is highly unlikely that the teacher knew 'what she was generally capable of and being generous on the back of that' as all the Speaking and Listening presentations have to be internally and externally moderated.

harper30 · 05/07/2019 19:06

I get where you're coming from but I wouldn't worry about it.
The pass/merit/distinction is a little arbitrary as it doesn't go towards an actual grade, it's just been left in the English exam specifications to tick the box of spoken language without pinning grades to it.
Also, your DD's school's marking of those speeches will be moderated, so you might find in the summer/on her results day that all of the marking for spoken language was deemed too generous so she might end up with a merit overall on her GCSE English results if that decision is made by a moderator.
I can see why you'd be a bit worried that it might make her over confident and think that she doesn't have to revise for the written exam as she breezed through spoken lang so easily, maybe wait and see if you think her mock exams are marked generously too then you can contact her English teacher and let them know your concerns?

herculepoirot2 · 05/07/2019 19:17

You may be right. Partly it will depend on the topic, if it’s AQA. The content needs to be ambitious/complex (not ridiculously so, but misogyny rather than your favourite flavours of Pot Noodle, if you like). And the student needs to engage with the audience, be engaging, introduce elements of structure - repeating arguments, using Q&A etc.). It’s not really that hard, but if she read it aloud she shouldn’t have got a distinction.

Don’t worry, though. If you disagree you can challenge it. 😂

TeenTimesTwo · 05/07/2019 20:28

I suspect you might be under estimating how poor some of the others may be. They are only 14/15, presumably they don't expect Oxford union or House of Parliament standards.
(DD is prepping hers this w/e …)

SilentSister · 06/07/2019 14:37

When they were still part of the GCSE assessment my DD got 100% - seriously not a stealth brag, she had done a lot of external Acting exams with full marks too, so probably was very good, but it is possible that she was just good on the day Wink

Devondoggydaycare · 06/07/2019 20:55

I agree with Teen. If your DD has a good vocabulary and sounds confident, she will have done well. Last summer my friend's DC refused to do their assessment in front of anyone except their teacher, shook with nerves throughout whilst reading a speech my friend had obviously written, yet still managed to pass.

RockinHippy · 06/07/2019 22:35

My daughter did something similar for hers & also got a distinction.

She was ill & exhausted, plus unbeknown to me until later, was having friendship issues with her friend who was meant to be helping with the recording & questions, so was stressed, in a flap & sticking her head in the sand until the last minute.

Did she deserve the distinction, hell yes, she was clever enough to wing it & still succeed. I'm not really understanding why you can't just be proud of your DD🤷‍♀️

pointythings · 06/07/2019 22:36

If your DD is bright and has a better than average vocabulary, that will get her a high mark. On the day, how she presents it also matters - she may have sounded much less 'reading flash cards out loud' during the actual exam.

My DD2 got a distinction too but worked hard for it because she was passionate about the subject.

Punxsutawney · 07/07/2019 08:05

Ds did his a couple of weeks ago. He is currently being asd for ASD and struggles hugely with any kind of communication or interaction. The school gave him the option to present his to a small group instead of the whole class but he refused. He desperately doesn't want to be seen as different to the others.

Ds prepared a few prompt cards but not a lot else. His English teacher emailed me after he had done it to tell me he did well and achieved a merit. His class were filmed for moderation purposes I think. I am very proud of the merit, things like this are not easy for Ds at all. Interestingly though he said some of the real mouthy, loud kids in the class really struggled with nerves during their presentations.

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