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Shifting the blame to pupils and parents

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Brilliantidiot · 06/03/2019 09:53

Hi,
My DD is in yr10 and has generally, a good attendance record.
The school is currently in special measures due to poor Ofsted report, and no improvement under new management, and has just been moved to another set of new management. Lots of changes, new rules etc. I support the school on this totally and DD has been told by me that if she breaks the rules not only will there be no sympathy here for punishment, but more punishment.
She's generally not a disruptive teen or rule breaker, obviously there's been a couple of minor incidents over the last 4 years but dealt with quickly by school and me and nipped in the bud.
I realise that half the battle with education is behaviour, and I know they need to come down hard, but so far all I've heard in meetings and letters is how the parents must support the school and how pupils will follow rules or face concequences.
Fair enough, except I'm hearing nothing about how the school intend to sort out the problems identified that are beyond pupils, parents or even teachers. Issues like pupils walking off site and no one noticing, or questioning where they are for a full day, and core subjects not having a full time and qualified teacher for 2 years - different supply or other subject teachers most lessons with minimal input from the only qualified teacher in that subject at the school because they're stretched so thin. Ofsted rightly said this, along with behaviour, isn't good enough.
When asked they cite a recruitment crisis, and that's it. Well obviously there's a recruitment crisis, but how do they plan to solve that?
Bullying and lack of action from the school is also a huge problem, again identified by Ofsted. But when asked about what is going to change there, they just state the current procedure works well - it obviously doesn't or Ofsted would have said so!
I feel that the school are palming off all the blame on badly behaved pupils and poor parenting, when it's not the case. Behaviour and parental support needs to improve, no doubt, however so do the policies regarding the things I've outlined. You can have all the parental support in the world, and the best behaved pupils, but if the teachers aren't qualified for the right subject then the pupils still won't learn what they are supposed to. If pupils are just allowed to bully others in school, they can do what they can at home but ultimately unless they're there to deal with it on the spot, which isn't going to happen as parents aren't there, what parents can do is limited.
To top it off I've had an experience around attendance that I'm a bit pissed off about. DD has 6 absences, all of which have been for medical appointments, and evidence provided to the school.
I got a letter after 5 saying that any further unauthorised absence would result in a home visit. I contacted the school and told them I'd already provided evidence, they looked into it and agreed that they had the evidence, it was a clerical error.
She had her 6th absence about 3 weeks ago, and I had a call on Monday to arrange a home visit due to so many unauthorised absence! I explained, forwarded the evidence and was told that it was definitely sorted out this time, all her absences had hospital letters to authorise them.
I'm a bit concerned that I'm going to end up in court over this, which will be a complete waste of time because obviously I have the evidence, but they've failed to record 6 absences correctly now, we will have other appointments, probably 2 before summer term ends and it's worrying.
It's also concerning that this is pretty basic, yet they can't seem to get it right.
Very worried for DDs education and exams next year and regret sticking with the school in the first place, but feel it's too late to move her now - it will be massively disruptive and she probably won't achieve better results moving now than she will where she is.
I want her to have the best chance at life but I don't know what to do for the best.

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Mediumred · 06/03/2019 11:06

Gosh, that all sounds really concerning - the staff shortages, lack of action over bullying and the poor admin over attendances - I guess the staff issues are down to lack of funds but the other two should also be priorities for a new team and should be tackled straight away. Try not to worry about court, sure it won’t come to that and if it does you can show you have done everything correctly.

I don’t really know what else to suggest, are there any meetings planned with parents, is there a forum where you can raise your concerns, what do other parents think?

For your girl I would just try to support her academically and emotionally as much as possible outside school, with books/online help in any subjects that you or she feels she might have gaps, could you stretch to a tutor for anything she’s really worried about? You sound really concerned for her welfare and a supportive and encouraging home environment can make up for a lot of shortcomings at school (not that it should have to!) good luck!

Brilliantidiot · 07/03/2019 07:35

Thanks for your reply, she's staying back for some of the study clubs already and we've discussed a tutor, I don't think I could manage a professional tutor for a lot of hours, but there are some students who are offering home tutoring near me that are training to be teachers I think. May look into that. I also have a couple of secondary school teachers as friends, may be able to arrange something there.
I attended the meetings and questions were asked about safeguarding, bullying and teacher retention, and then I realised the long winded waffle actually told us nothing . The emphasis was very much on how pupils were failing themselves and their school with poor attendance, behaviour and attitude and how parents needed to support the school no matter what. I feel disheartened to be honest because no one at the school seems to be taking responsibility for anything that's wrong or saying how to put it right.

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SaturdayNext · 07/03/2019 08:30

Can you ask to see their records to satisfy yourself that they are now recording your daughter's absences properly?

ninjawarriorsocks · 07/03/2019 21:49

Yes I would ask to be sent a copy of her attendance record so that you know it is correct. At DDs school we can see their attendance online so I can check it but they could send you a print out if they don't do that.

Brilliantidiot · 08/03/2019 07:58

Thank you, I did ask to be emailed a copy of her attendance record for this reason - still waiting. I do work nights however and sometimes I miss the times I can call and speak to who I need to, tend to do most things except emergencies through email with her tutor as we can both reply when we can and I'm not really on the ball at 2/3pm because for me it's 2/3am and they don't get much sense out of me! Incidentally her tutor has been great about this and only ever rang me in case of emergency. I will email and back up the request.

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Foxyloxy1plus1 · 08/03/2019 14:47

The trouble is that there’s a recruitment crisis and it’s even more difficult to attract teachers to schools in the sort of challenging circumstances you outline. Of course, subjects should be taught by subject specialists, but the reality is sadly, that’s not always possible.

So far as you others concerns go, I think the school has some lax procedures and some questions to answer. Probably one of the casualties of the special measures and frequent changes in personnel.

cauliflowersqueeze · 08/03/2019 14:48

I’ll pick apart a few things for you.

1 - parental support is the biggest indicator of student achievement so they do need to get this sorted. It sounds like you are hugely supportive so you might feel that other parents work in a similar way. They don’t. Bullying does need to be dealt with but if there are mixed messages at home (“just hit him” / “teachers don’t know anything” etc) then it is hard to manage.

  1. There is a recruitment and retention crisis and sadly it is incredibly hard to appoint in some areas. They will be doing their best because supply is incredibly expensive and the quality is not always good.
  1. They should definitely have in place better attendance management in terms of calling parents as soon as possible if students do not attend or walk off site. There is no excuse for that.
  1. 5 appointments is quite a lot. You can help this by asking what time their PM register is at. It’s usually about 2pm or 2:30pm. Arrange appointments after this time and it will have no impact on your daughter’s but try to make them in holiday time. I’m assuming that she is just absent for the appointment and not for a full day for an appointment.
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