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Help with parental withdrawal

33 replies

Sanaa76 · 30/11/2018 20:19

Hi All,
Ashcroft academy has just asked me to draw my DS as they don't feel they can do much for him. I admit DS can very talkative and loud sometimes. DS has never being accused of fighting, being rude or bullying. He's just started year 7 and is a little immature if I'm honest, but I don't believe that makes him a problem child. Ashcroft is aware he has a problem with his ear ( due to this can be quite loud). He is due to have an operation soon. Ashcroft wants me to write a letter to say it is my decision to withdraw DS from school any advise or assistance will be greatly appreciated.

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141mum · 03/12/2018 21:52

DONT WITHDRAW HIM
Going through similar with daughter and have had legal advice to not withdraw her as then the local education have no responsibility, ask for home tuition if it bothers the school that much until he has had operation. Bloody sods

noblegiraffe · 04/12/2018 22:51

Ofsted were questioned about this sort of off-rolling on twitter twitter.com/mikercameron/status/1069882395791450114?s=21

Their response: “Any evidence of off-rolling we find would be reflected negatively in our reports and potentially in our judgements of the school. It would form part of the evidence base for leadership and management and outcomes judgements”.

Which might be useful to remind the school.

GreenTulips · 04/12/2018 23:38

I watched School earlier - if you look at their SEN budget I'm not suprised the schools want to off load kids -

What we will end up with are school who take SEN and schools who don't - we will then have specialised schools for children who don't fit in the current set up

Now I don't agree with this, schools should be able to accommodate everyone but this costs money.

The rules were brought in to stop this happening and encourage schools to accept children who were challenging for what ever reason.

No they are going back on the deal with a zero tolerance stance when it's well known for example ADHD kids find sitting still difficult dyslexic kids don't have the focus - so they fail before they even step through the door. They are then excluding on he basis of 'Zero tolerance'

It needs a rethink - it needs money and it needs staff with experience- and more than anything we need parents educated on the rights of children and their education.

marytuda · 05/12/2018 09:09

What we are moving towards is undeclared selection in so-called comprehensive schools. You can see it most clearly in London where there are so many schools - and families chasing school places - in a small geographic area. Nominally catchment-area (or open-lottery) schools gradually accrue a reputation for a certain kind of teaching and discipline (in tandem with their Outstanding Ofsted) which discourages the "challenged" of any description . . . and then the few who do slip through the net end up wishing they hadn't. There are some so-called comprehensives (I suspect) who are positively proud of the fact that they don't serve the less able very well . . . That way, word will get round and only the super-academic will apply in future! Bingo - an effective 11+ free grammar school!!

FloatingthroughSpace · 05/12/2018 09:25

Just glanced at the SEN info. It talks about "students with statements", which means it hasn't been updated since at least 2014. There should not be any students with statements left now.

NotAnotherJaffaCake · 05/12/2018 09:34

The Chief INspector of Schools gave her annual report yesterday and one of the big topics was off rolling. DO NOT WITHDRAW your child. Paper trail for everything. Find the school's complaint policy and follow it to the letter. Find the other parents this is happening to. COntact your MP. and your local authority councillor (no idea what the deal is in London - maybe member of the london assembly?) Education is handled at the LA level so you need your elected rep at that level on side - they can be quite useful.

Ivy50 · 20/12/2018 14:06

This is a huge shame and very common practice, especially with disadvantaged children! The academy's practices need looking into, particulary year 7 where once picked on by the deputy HoY a students life is made hell as a systematic mode of ensuring managed roll off/expulsion is conducted through multiple detentions which then lead to additional internal exclusions as the child is considered an offender! No Pastoral care. Agree disrutpion is not good however it can be managed with the right support. The impact on these children is huge!

Ivy50 · 20/12/2018 14:12

Sorry pressed button too soon. In addition to the advice given, you can write to the board expressing your concerns.. however you need to think through whether your child is happy/thriving in that kind of environment. Think long term, am hoping he will be given the right support which will enable him to settle.

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