Teacher tells my child not to shout out and yet ignores her when she asks a question

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My child has come home numerous times (she is in year 9 and if other posts have been read you’ll know what she’s like ) and she has told me about this one teacher (who , by the way , phones me about her ALOT) she’s expressed to me that she has to shout out . Sometimes she blurts things out like silly questions and because of this the teacher doesn’t answer any questions from her and this lad who are both as bad as each other really . She will avoid them when there hands are up and eventually say I, not answering your question so you might aswell put your hand down . She then shouts at my daughter for shouting out the question in which she has to answer . This is the only way for her to get a question answered and it is not ok . I appreciate she blurts things out by accident sometimes and chats a lot but in the times she wants to learn , it necessary to answer her questions as it may be something important etc . I’m not sure whether to approach this teacher or not about this

Have a serious talk with her. IHeartKingThistle has a point - if she can sit quietly in assembly then she has the physical ability to control herself. Does she realise what she’s doing is selfish and harming those kids who are struggling to understand the concepts? Writing questions down is a good idea.

If this fails to make an impression then maybe continually interrupt her when she is trying to relate stories or ask questions.

She sounds disruptive. It's not something she can't help, she's making a choice...

She says she can’t help it and it’s a habit x

She probably also used to have the habit of pooping in her pamper whenever and wherever she wanted and sleeping during the day. She got over that habit as well with some help of you. Don't fall for her silly explanation, it's ridiculous for a neurotypical child.

Unless your daughter has some kind of disorder, she can help shouting out. She is in year 9 fgs, not year 3. Support the school by telling your daughter to damn well behave herself.

Your DD sounds like she is being rude and disruptive. Of course the teacher doesn’t want to answer her question right after she’s shouted out as it would reward the behaviour. She’s also got up to 33 others to deal with. (34 class sizes in my school.) Trust me, we are extremely busy and low on time. If the teacher needed to ring you not once but several times, I’m willing to bet your daughter’s behaviour is absolutely appalling and goes even beyond what you’ve written here.

It is SO unfair on all the other children in the class when a little madam like your daughter thinks she can shout out as much as she likes, and even worse that you are supporting this disgraceful behaviour.

I think you said in another post that she used to be quiet and didn't used to call out, so it does just sound like teenage disruptive behaviour that she needs to stop.

TBH, OP you sound like an enabling parent who is part of the problem.

Oh wow

A lesser spotted That Parent, out in the wild

Fascinating

I had a (younger) child in my class behaving like this this week and it is absolutely soul destroying, utterly disruptive for everyone else and so rude. I wouldn't ignore her hand up QS but the can't help it bit is ridiculous tbh.

@MadameButterface

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In my head, I heard David Attenborough's voice saying your words MadameButterface..

Send the teacher(s) a box of chocolates for having to put up with her nonsense.

Your daughter is very naughty and disruptive. You are actively endorsing this and blaming the teacher.
Your daughter absolutely can learn some self control and manners. You need to teach her or she’ll end up failing in school and doing badly at exams. Definitely not too late to turn her around but it will take some effort.
If you get a call from her teacher, tell her off and take her phone away for 24 hours. Each and every time for two weeks. Tell the teacher you are supporting them in this way. Ask if your daughter can be moved to the front of the class away from others for that two weeks.
If after a fortnight it hadn’t improved then next time, take her phone away for three days each time for a month.
Ask if teacher would complete a little notebook with a smiley or sad face for each lesson depending on behaviour. You can then reward the smiley face lessons with a new nail varnish, letting her choose supper or some new pencils etc.
Carrot and stick is the way to change her behaviour - it does work but has to be consistent. Reward the good, sanction the poor behaviours. If you don’t the disruptive behaviour will worsen and is likely at her age to have a lifelong impact.

An apology from the child (teachers do not have a lot of time and at Secondary teach A Lot of pupils. So if shes often ringing you then there's quite a big problem.)

Another tactic might be approaching SENDCO for some strategies to help with the calling out. If you and your child approach it with school as "we know there's a problem, she wants to fix it, help her relearn."

Id want the disruptive child out of my classroom each time it happens personally and as much as I dont like the local bootcamp scary school they do have that sorted!

As a teacher, I don't ignore my students.

I make the conscious decision to disregard their questions if I have reason to believe that their question will be 1. irrelevant or 2. facetious or 3. the question has already been asked or answered by another student. In addition, I make the conscious decision to develop specific patterns of deafness when it comes to shouting out, because if one student successfully gains my attention by shouting out, every student instantly becomes convinced that this is a valid strategy and chaos ensues.

A child whose question I disregard, and who consequently shouts out, is not going to be my first port of call for my next question, because I don't want to be seen as rewarding attention-seeking behaviour with attention.

Exactly what @Sethis said. You will do far more to support your daughter's learning if you reinforce better behaviour and support the teacher. She will have far fewer unanswered questions if she learns to pay attention instead of being silly. Imagine if every child in class expected their questions (relevant or not) answered whenever they wanted causing constant interruption and disrupting teaching.

Again, everything @Sethis said. I also find that those who are persistent in their shouting out are not really paying attention and the questions have either already been answered or are about to be answered. I allow time for questioning at the end of an explanation and if students have questions during the task they put their hand up and wait.

Quite often a persistent offender of shouting out will call their questions across the classroom while I'm dealing with another student - which isn't just disruptive but incredibly rude to the student I'm helping.

And in terms of having an answer - we operate a no-hands-up policy. I choose which students I will be calling on to answer questions. I do this because I have pre-planned the questions to check understanding and they are targeted for differentiation and stretch and challenge, which means that over the course of a few lessons ALL students get to demonstrate their understanding, not just the loud or confident ones.

At her age she really should be able to stop such an appalling habit. I feel sorry for the teacher.

From experience I have found that (generally) those that shout out then put their hand up to ask a question ask "what are we doing?", "when is break?", "how long is there to go?", "why are we doing this?" or "can I go to the toilet?" I suspect that the OP's DD is doing this type of thing

Shame OP has disappeared.

That poor teacher!

OP, if you do come back, tell your DD to stop shouting out, and back up the school. Her questions will be answered by simply listening to the teacher and allowing them to teach without these rude and disruptive interruptions.

You don’t seem very bothered with the fact that your daughter is not only disruptive but rude! You seem to think the teacher is the problem! No your child and you are the problem! It’s not fair on the other dc who want to learn!

She is rude and disruptive and you are minimising and enabling.

She needs to learn to control herself. She’s 14, not 4. Of course she’s capable of not acting the fool, she’s choosing to behave the way she is. And it is a natural consequence of that choice that the teacher is not giving her opportunity to ask any more stupid questions.

Parent your child and teach her that she is not more important than the other 29 pupils in the class, that she can control her behaviour and that she absolutely must control her behaviour.

No teacher is constantly ringing you unless your child is a seriously disruptive influence. And you want to blame the teacher rather than your child

Sethis Spot on.
boney I agree.

The type of student who will blurt out, shout out, ask stupid questions is also the type who will then put tjeir hand up to ask 'is that the date and title?!... do we have to write it...?!' for dramatic effect and attention after the rest of the clas are 4 minutes into the task.

I don't ignore students. I do make decisions not to enable attention seeking and disruptive behaviour. Why would I want to put my energy and time into someone who asks endless silly questions and disrupts when I could be helping those who are stuck and helping others get onto the challenge tasks?

Bottom line OP is she needs to behave.

poof

There goes the OP.

Poor teacher. If I knew who she was I’d send her a bottle of wine.