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isolation

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andreapendle · 09/11/2018 10:06

Has anyone experienced problems with your child when he/she has been in isolation? do you think the schools are using this as an easy option/way out of giving other punishments? why are some kids excluded from isolation? im very (confused) with the way the school is treating my daughter as she has done very minor wrong things and isolation does not warrant this. it is making her ill (sad) -

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ileclerc · 09/11/2018 10:08

What has she actually done?

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andreapendle · 09/11/2018 10:25

she had her phone during break and used it to phone her friend to find out where she was? she didn't hand her homework in on time - was late once (all this was over a period of a month) - they have now said if she does something else wrong (which being a 14 year old kid) she probably will - that she will be excluded and another school will be found. (sad) - i think this punishment is severe for the deeds done.

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TeenTimesTwo · 09/11/2018 12:00

They can't/don't permanently exclude for 3 minor breeches in behaviour.

There must be more to this. Have you had a meeting with the school?

Some schools with tough policies might use isolation for these but most I think won't. Unless there is much more to it, e.g. kicking off and swearing at teacher and not handing over phone when asked.

Y9 or y10? If y9 you might want to think about moving schools anyway as you and she don't sound very happy.

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andreapendle · 09/11/2018 17:33

She is in year 10 - she’s never sworn at teach and the most she has done is missed one lesson (truanted) two months ago - she is punished at home also - we have had two meetings with teachers and she is still on report getting good results in lessons too - I’m fed up with school and don’t agree with isolation so next time it happens she will be moving Shock

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fourcorneredcircle · 09/11/2018 18:16

If she’s on report then probably any misdemeanours will result in isolation.

If she’s still on report two months after truanting then I would suggest that things aren’t going well and that she’s probably causing problems... such as arguing with staff (even if she doesn’t swear she can still be rude etc.) over the phone, being late, why she hasn’t done her homework.

greencatbluecat · 09/11/2018 18:36

Most schools take an extremely dim view of using phones during school and skipping out of lessons.

As a school governor who is regularly involved in excluding pupils, I can tell you that my school does absolutely everything before excluding a pupil.

Those that are excluding typically have an exhaustive bad behaviour log containing continual low level disruption in class, plus a few other more serious issues, such as stealing, hurting somebody else or bringing the school into serious disrepute.

Ask to have a meeting with your head of year or even the head teacher. The school will welcome your support.

Walkingdeadfangirl · 09/11/2018 18:45

So she is on report, been caught truanting, parents been called in twice, caught using phone in school time, not doing homework and I bet a whole lot more.

At the very least a good school would have her in isolation. Unless she bucks up her ideas she most definitely is on the road to external exclusions and deservedly so.

I think you need to start backing the school up and stop making excuses for her, she is in Y10 now.

clary · 09/11/2018 19:28

Why is she on report? In any school I know about that's a love after a lot of issues, more than just missing hw and truanting one lesson.

clary · 09/11/2018 19:28

A move, sorry,not a love!

Anasnake · 09/11/2018 19:31

You're minimising, why is she on report ?

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andreapendle · 09/11/2018 20:10

I asked the school to put her on report so that isolation would stop. Have seen head of year and also vice principle - they insist that it’s school policy for isolation for every child but a child with ADHD is excluded from this??

I know my daughter is naughty and she has been rude (but swearing) but ignoring teachers - she’s 14 a teenager (no I’m not making excuses for her as I believe in punishment) - she doesn’t steal or hurt anyone and has good results in lessons - she is the last child of five and the only one we are having this problem with (sad) it’s really upsetting everyone

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greencatbluecat · 09/11/2018 20:45

Presumably, then, your DD is the source of low level disruption, which spoils the learning of others.

Keep in contact with school. Tell the school you want to help. Ask their advice. Believe me, they do not want to exclude your DD but they will if they see no alternative.

fourcorneredcircle · 09/11/2018 20:56

This is turning in to a massive dripfeed.

Now you requested the report... and she has ADHD.

Anyway, honestly, it sounds like your daughter is hard work - I’m not doubting she is for you too. But you’ve said that in school she sounds like she flouts rules, argues with teachers, truants lessons and doesn’t do homework. You do know all of these things aren’t what most children do? Even kids with ADHD?!

If you’ve requested the report then arguing against it (or at least the punishment it attracts) is Hmm. And honestly, even if you hadn’t requested it, I bet she’d be on it anyway.

Support the school, back them up. Your daughter won’t thank you, but it the long run she might actually leave with some qualifications and a chance of living a good life where she accepts rules and the consequences of not following those rules.

Wolfiefan · 09/11/2018 21:00

She hasn’t been doing minor things. So far you’ve said she:
Truanted
Used her mobile when she shouldn’t
Has been rude to staff
She’s naughty
Didn’t hand in HW
Ignoring staff
She sounds like a bloody nightmare TBH.

noblegiraffe · 09/11/2018 21:22

they insist that it’s school policy for isolation for every child but a child with ADHD is excluded from this??

Has your child got ADHD? If not, this is totally and utterly irrelevant.

Namenic · 09/11/2018 21:25

The good results aren’t really v relevant. If (and we don’t really have the full picture here) she is causing low level disruption it is spoiling other kids’ learning. Maybe ask her why she is acting up - does she realise that it’s selfish to reduce other kids’ life chances? Maybe she has other reasons.

Walkingdeadfangirl · 09/11/2018 22:08

No school would exclude a Y10 student who was getting good grades unless there was a serious discipline issue.

greathat · 09/11/2018 22:51

There's a lot missing from this story I think...

Killybashangel · 10/11/2018 07:44

I thought op meant another child who has ADHD doesn't get the same punishments her dd does.

noblegiraffe · 10/11/2018 12:02

Yes Killy, that would be because reasonable adjustments are made for children with SEN. Why is that relevant when the OP’s DD doesn’t have SEN?

Killybashangel · 10/11/2018 13:14

I don't know. I was just saying i thought the op meant something different from how another poster had interpreted it as the op's child having ADHD

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andreapendle · 10/11/2018 13:27

To everyone whose posted a reply - child does not have ADHD - that is her best friend . My daughter had another best friend who committed suicide 1.5 years ago which really affected her (she did receive counselling for this) - I requested her to go into a report until further notice - I will back the school up as in the beginning they were doing the right thing but I think it’s git out of hand - I drop my daughter off at school she does miss lessons anymore and she is in the top set in all her lessons - it’s seems to be outside these lessons she is failing - she is also in with a bad crowd - so we’ve made a decision to move her to another school to hopefully start afresh (happy)

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