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all day detention

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Strugglingtodomybest · 10/10/2018 13:48

MY DS who is in year 8 has been given an all day detention, although that's not what it's called, it's called inclusion I think. So he has to sit by himself all day from 8.30 to 4.30 in a room with a teacher.

I'm worried that he's missing maths and science lessons, amongst others. Can anyone tell me, if this is similar to your school, how do they catch up on the lessons they miss? My older son has told me that friends of his who have had a similar punishment have sat all day doing online maths stuff or reading and have not caught up on the lessons they missed.

I want to ring the school and ask, but I'm really bad on the phone so I'd like an idea of what's normal and what I should expect before I call.

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Wolfiefan · 10/10/2018 13:52

It’s internal exclusion. I would worry more about what he did to get this consequence and not what he’s missing that day.

Strugglingtodomybest · 10/10/2018 13:56

Thanks for that very helpful post Wolfie!

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Wolfiefan · 10/10/2018 13:57

Well it’s true. Unless you find out why this has happened and work to prevent it happening again he will miss a whole lot more. Confused

Strugglingtodomybest · 10/10/2018 13:59

I know why it happened and I have no problem with him being punished.

I just want to know how he catches up his work that he's missing, as I said.

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CuckooCuckooClock · 10/10/2018 14:00

He should catch up on work in his own time if he's worried about missing stuff. He could ask to borrow a friend's book to copy notes.

Strugglingtodomybest · 10/10/2018 14:03

He could, thanks Cuckoo. I was just hoping that a teacher or three could tell me what the policy is in their school, so I can get an idea of what's normal.

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Spam88 · 10/10/2018 14:03

It's just the same as if he'd been suspended from school, except they make him come in instead so he's not just out and about causing trouble. The onus is on him to catch up as it would be if he missed a day of school for any other reason.

SleepingStandingUp · 10/10/2018 14:03

If he hasn't got any /isn't allowed any work to do during it he needs to talk to his class mates / teachers and ask what work was covered and make it up at home by the start of next week at the latest.

AmazingGrace16 · 10/10/2018 14:05

He won't be sat there doing nothing. Normal practice would be for the teacher to provide work for him to complete that parallels the lesson he is missing

Wheresthel1ght · 10/10/2018 14:06

He is responsible for arranging to collect the work he has missed in exactly the same way he would have to if he had been fully excluded.

I would be less focuses on finding a way to have a pop at his school and look closer at why he has been excluded from school

Strugglingtodomybest · 10/10/2018 14:06

Thanks Spam and Sleeping. I'll get onto him then about finding out what he's missed. I'm just worried because last year he worked really really hard to get moved up a set in maths and science, and I know how easy it is to fall behind in these subjects if you miss a lesson.

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CuckooCuckooClock · 10/10/2018 14:10

I am a secondary school teacher and it would be my school's policy that it was up to the student to catch up.
If he's really keen to catch up he could go and see his teachers at break or after school to see if they'd be willing to provide him with a catch up worksheet.
Whether I was prepared to spend time helping a student catch up would depend on why they were in isolation to begin with.

Strugglingtodomybest · 10/10/2018 14:14

I would be less focuses on finding a way to have a pop at his school and look closer at why he has been excluded from school

Where have I said that I want to have a 'pop' at his school? As I have already said, I'm ok with the punishment, and there is no need to look any closer at why he was excluded, it was very clear cut.

Honestly, why the hostility? I'm simply worried that he's missing out on learning and want to know what the normal way of catching up is as we've never experienced an exclusion in our family before.

Thanks Amazing, I think I'll see what he says happened when he gets home, and if he wasn't given work then I'll help him to chase up what he missed.

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sashh · 10/10/2018 14:15

The teachers will be asked to provide work. Exactly what is provided depends on the lesson so if there is a practical he is missing in science he may have to read the relevant chapter and answer the questions.

Some schools inform the teacher beforehand so you can email work in, but often the pupil has to go from internal exclusion to each teacher and bring work back.

H may need a packed lunch. Most schools do not allow children in exclusion to go to the dining hall, they wither bring a packed lunch or an order is sent to the canteen for sandwiches.

Sometimes it is not possible for the teacher to give work eg I had a class where I was showing a film and the students had a sheet to answer questions about the DVD. I hadn't been informed before hand so I had not arranged anything different.

It's a good idea for him to have a book with him.

Strugglingtodomybest · 10/10/2018 14:16

Thanks again Cuckoo!

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Wolfiefan · 10/10/2018 14:17

He needs to catch up himself. Borrow notes etc. Same as if he was off ill.

Strugglingtodomybest · 10/10/2018 14:19

It appears that different schools have different ways of doing things then. I'll see what he says. Thanks everyone!

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clary · 10/10/2018 15:20

Hi op, the policy in the school where I worked was that teachers were asked to provide the work that they would have done with the student for them to complete in isolation.

This was not always (ever) easy to do but I used to try to put something together between registration and p1... IME the students never did the work. I no longer teach. But anyway, something like that would help your ds if he is keen

HeidioftheAlps · 10/10/2018 15:41

I think this punishment is the norm in comps. I don't know about other types of school. He won't necessarily be by himself as there may be other kids in the room with the teacher, usually with dividers like in the photo. At the dcs school they have work brought to them to get on with. I don't know if it's the same as the lesson he would be doing but he can catch up from a friend's notes as he would if he missed school due to sickness

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Strugglingtodomybest · 10/10/2018 17:05

Thanks again everyone. He's home now and said that he was provided with work from his science teacher and then spent time on the maths app.

And yes, he said there were other kids in too, 7 at one point.

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