Are the girls in girls' schools very bitchy?

[PhilomenaButterfly]

DD's 1st choice for secondary's a girls' school, but my friend tells me that the girls can be really bitchy, and it might be better if she went to a mixed school.

What are your experiences?

[NothingOnTellyAgain]

lol @ the idea that teh answer to "equality" is putting girls in with boys who have deeply sexist attitudes in order to "socialise" them.

That's not how it works.

Society needs to change first- children learn these messages at home and from media etc.

[NothingOnTellyAgain]

In my epxerience girls from single sex schools are way better at telling boys to fuck off as they havenot been ground down with it all. They are not used to being treated that way and react accordingly.

[NothingOnTellyAgain]

Lots of sexual assaults in mixed sex schools including rape.

Google the stats.

This is good for the boys though to have the girls there so should be encouraged.

No this is not how you bring about change and make our society like others that are less sexist.

[PhilomenaButterfly]

Thanks cake 😀

[BossWitch]

In my epxerience girls from single sex schools are way better at telling boys to fuck off as they havenot been ground down with it all. They are not used to being treated that way and react accordingly.

Yes, I have noticed this. But I think it sometimes gets misconstrued as the girl not knowing how to 'deal with' boys and seen as a failing, rather than a strength!

[PhilomenaButterfly]

Well, if DD acquires the confidence to tell people to fuck off, I'll be very pleased! She's quite shy at the moment.

[CarolDanvers]

I’m very surprised that any non selective comprehensive school is in the top 1% in the country. That doesn’t mean that there are not good non selective schools but in the top 1%

DD's all girls non selective comp is in the top 2%. I could link as it clearly states it on the website but it would be outing. I know it's not the same one as the OP for various small snippets of information they've given.

I don't think it's that unusual.

The poster who says they can always tell when someone went to an all girls school because they get flustered and shuffle around in the seats . I don't believe you.

[CarolDanvers]

Forgot to add, many girls just do better in an all girls environment, my dd, who has high functioning autism is one of them. I found the competition for boys attention, the casual groping, sexual innuendo and focus on "relationships" at such a young age exhausting and I am so relieved my girl won't have to deal with that.

[himalayansalt]

I'm not liking some of the sweeping statements about boys on this thread! Your daughter's fathers were schoolboys at one point.

[NothingOnTellyAgain]

"Yes, I have noticed this. But I think it sometimes gets misconstrued as the girl not knowing how to 'deal with' boys and seen as a failing, rather than a strength!"

Oh! This makes a lot of sense. Thanks Boss!

himalaya - yes but sweeping statements that girls are all terrible bitches from some parents are fine
and the way some boys refer to all girls as "slags" etc is also fine

whatever

[NothingOnTellyAgain]

" The way they speak about girls "yats" is appalling. The local girls schools are derided and the schools names amended to Slutney/SLAGS, The Whore House etc and entire schools of girls are dismissed as being slags etc. These are the girls who think the boys are their friends, they want to meet up and invite the boys to all of their parties etc. "

It was someone who was keen to have schools mixed that said this.

[LemonysSnicket]

I think less so, as there aren't boys to fight over or try to impress

[LemonysSnicket]

Oh, and liking boy bands hasn't been cool for a long time btw

[madeyemoodysmum]

I also hate the way boys are described on MN. Many of the young boys I've met are lovely open minded people and are very respectful . Maybe we are just lucky. There are always the exception but so are there with the girls.

[himalayansalt]

Nothingontellyagain - I haven't made any sweeping comments about all girls schools! My daughter went to one and loved it.

[NothingOnTellyAgain]

Erm

I meant that you are angry about sweeping statements about boys
But not about sweeping statements abotu girls

There are both on the thread
Yet you only pulled people up on one

[Thatoneoverthere]

I went to an all girls school and it was right for me, although it was a big shock at university though to be glared at and talked over by males because I was used to offering my opinion freely (yes not all men but I had spent 7 years of no one doing this to me so it was pretty obvious).
Also it was my brother who came home crying cause boys had been bitchy about his haircut.

[ILoveDolly]

My daughter chose all girls selective school at y7 and she finds the atmosphere of academic endeavour without boys talking over her perfect for her. She was in a tough mixed sex y6 class with boys who had appalling attitudes to girls and non academic cool girl types who bullied her, and she was not keen to repeat the experience by continuing at the feeder high school. Her school is very supportive and has an emphasis on thinking skills and pastoral care, I find all the girls delightful.

[squeekyhead]

I attended an all girls school. There was plenty of bitchiness, backstabbing and the psychological bullying is far worse than in an a co-ed environment. Boys may not have been there but they were talked about all the time and the only fights I witnessed ( 3 in 7 years ) were all to do with boys. We didn't see maths and science as "boys" subjects but even so, more girls chose arts A level subjects. Quiet girls can suffer in all girls schools. At primary school I certainly related better to some of the quieter boys than the girls.

[Juls1980]

I went to a girls school and I would personally say yes, but that some persons opinion.

I have always felt That schools should be co-ed. A true representation of what life is like. A representation of society.

[BubblesBuddy]

If you didn’t go to a co-ed, squeaky, you cannot really compare. You have no idea which would have been the worse environment. The idea that girls don’t do any of those things in a co-ed school is just ludicrous. Where there isn’t a single sex school, all the type of girls you dislike Will Be in the Co-ed School. So of course there is little difference in the way some girls behave in the schools.

What is important to remember is that it is only some girls. It is only some boys who are annoying or a distraction. There needs to be a bit of perspective because it’s never all the children who behave in an unacceptable way.

[BubblesBuddy]

School is only a few hours a day for 38 weeks a year. There are plenty of other opportunities for girls to mix with boys. Education doesn’t have to replicate society and there are plenty of reasons why this might not be acceptable for some children in some circumstances. They have many years ahead of being in society. A bubble in school can be a secure place to grow and develop.

[squeekyhead]

Bubblesbuddy. - my school did allow boys in at sixth form. The dynamics changed drastically. It was a much more pleasant and natural environment. Single sex schools have their place but the OPs post was asking about bitchiness in all girls schools and I have just stated my experience.

[madeyemoodysmum]

I friend of mine e has taken both her children out of single sex boys and girls because of bullying.
It's seems at our local girls they get on ok until year 8/9 but then for the unlucky ones the bitching starts.
I guess it's the personality of the child that counts.

[Taffeta]

It depends on the child, and I suspect, the school.

My DD has always preferred an all girls environment (Guides, Brownies, Rainbows) and was adamant she wanted to “escape” boys at secondary. She has quite enough at home with her elder brother.

Her school seems delightfully unbitchy. So far! (Y8)

Although I’ve friends with daughters in Y10 who say the same.