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Urgent help needed with school admission/appeal etc

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friendlyflicka · 06/09/2018 20:28

I don't want to go into too much detail but:

I am a sole parent for 2 daughters both with diagnosed anxiety disorder. They have had a difficult past - alcoholic father from whom I am now divorced, neither child wants to see him. We have had a summer of harassment and threats with the police involved.

Last year the 15 year old became too anxious to attend her school in year 10. She was treated by CAMHS and after much difficulty (because of her low attendance figures) and much mention of the Equalities Act, got her a place at a local Catholic school. She has flourished now full time attendance and very happy. But as a result of our domestic situation and her anxiety, I am driving her too and from school everyday. The only way she can attend.

My younger daughter was at the feeder school for secondary now attended by my older daughter. All her friends - really all her friends - got into this school because they are baptised. My daughter didn't.
We went to appeal with evidence from her counsellor - very experienced student counsellor - stating that she needed to be with her peers and sister. There was more evidence than this. I thought it was well presented. The appeal panel agreed that the prejudice to my daughter greater etc, but there were stronger cases (3) who were given places.

I tried to present this positively to my daughter. Hard because she was allocated a place at the huge school that handled my other daughter's problems very badly. I also rung up diocese who said that a second appeal could be agreed if the situation had changed significantly, at the discretion of the governors.

Our domestic situation had grown more threatening, with the police risk assessing us as at immediate risk from children's father. My daughter's mental health had further deteriorated and she was referred to CAMHS.

I gave evidence to school governors. They are going to decide whether they can sanction a second appeal on Tuesday. I have given more medical evidence and police risk assessments and incident reports.

I am still having to drive older daughter to school and younger daughter is scared to get bus. I really am totally on my own and both children highly highly anxious. I have bipolar disorder, medicated and treated and under community mental health team.

My younger daughter has totally crumbled on her second day at huge new school - she doesn't know anyone - it really is a big school and she is a very shy girl. I have contacted year head etc and also contacted doctor. She is in tears and cannot sleep, really in a state.

I do not know what to do or if there is anyone I can contact to help me sort out this mess. I know I should just wait to see if second appeal will be held. But I don't know how to get both children in different directions to schools.

I don't know if my younger daughter is in anyway entitled to a place under fair access protocol because of her mental health requirements. Please could somebody advise - I mean in legal terms.

I know about trying positive, communicating with schools etc. I have done nothing else this last year with other daughter.

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Highlights12 · 15/09/2018 13:12

Good Luck. I hope they see sense and give your dd a place.

helpmum2003 · 15/09/2018 13:23

Friendlyflicka - the advice someone gave you about the risks of home educating were given in good faith I think. You do need to protect your mental health and if your DD are at school it gives you a break.

Having said that you are in a really awful situation - I hope you make progress with the appeal and I would totally play the system and get dd2 baptized pronto - don't feel bad about it x

friendlyflicka · 15/09/2018 14:59

helpmum2003 Thank you. I probably am feeling a bit sensitive about this as I have had to hand over all my problems so many times to try to get help and am beginning to feel a bit like I should be on Jeremy Kyle. Yes, it is much easier for me if my children are at school, all these issues have been incredibly stressful.

I really hope by October half term i have left a few of these difficulties behind and can stop writing angry letters of complaint. And thank you Highlights12

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NoLeslie · 15/09/2018 15:05

No advice but just wanted to say you sound amazing and your DDs clearly could not wish for a better mother. I hope school is sorted for your youngest really soon. Keep going, you are doing a great job FlowersCakeBrew

WindDoesNotBreakTheBendyTree · 15/09/2018 15:07

This is why public funding shouldn't be going into schools that select on the basis of faith criteria.

I feel for you OP, and wish you so much luck with your appeal. Can you get any medical/MH documentation or recommendations re your daughter's reaction to the current school.

friendlyflicka · 15/09/2018 16:21

Thanks so much. I have a lot of evidence, but then I had lots at the first appeal. so...

I think faith schools are not a great idea in general. But the fact that this one really doesn't care if people practise their faith, it is just literally the baptism certificate means that there are so many parents who are completely unreligious with children at the school.

I didn't baptise my children because I was brought up catholic and knew that I was totally lapsed and lazy so thought it would be meaningless!

Thanks so much for all your support. Makes a great difference

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prh47bridge · 15/09/2018 16:51

To be fair, that isn't the school's fault. They are not allowed to judge the strength of people's faith. The Admissions Code is clear that they must use objective measures, which fundamentally means baptism and church attendance. Some schools tried to use the level of involvement the family had with the church but were banned from doing so.

friendlyflicka · 22/09/2018 21:04

I have appeal on Wednesday. The diocese have been very kind and scheduled it as soon as possible and I have waived the 10 days' notice thing.

I have so much evidence now. And there are less pupils in the year now then after the first appeal admitted 3 over PAN. Now one over and there are more than that in the year above.

I felt confident at the last appeal though...not complacent just really hoping that it will turn out ok.

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friendlyflicka · 26/09/2018 16:43

She got in!!! So pleased. And I feel quite reassured because the panel was unanimous and couldn't understand the decision of the last one. I am so relieved.

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Myshinynewname · 26/09/2018 16:46

That’s great news! Well done, time to celebrate now.

helpmum2003 · 26/09/2018 16:53

Fabulous news! Hope your life gets easier now. Well done.

prh47bridge · 26/09/2018 20:11

Well done! If I've got the right case, I couldn't understand the decision of the first panel either. I'm really glad it has been sorted.

friendlyflicka · 26/09/2018 20:20

Thanks everyone.prh47bridge, I really couldn't. It left totally bewildered.

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MsJolly · 26/09/2018 20:27

Fantastic news! I remember that feeling of euphoria when we won our appeal for DD!

friendlyflicka · 26/09/2018 20:50

I have been fighting for places for both my daughters for a year at halloween. Pretty much all I have thought about. I can actually get a life again now..

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Alwa · 26/09/2018 21:05

Well done to you for persevering and best of luck to her.

RandomMess · 26/09/2018 21:08

Great news! I followed your first post on this (perhaps for your older DD?)

WineThanks

friendlyflicka · 26/09/2018 21:24

Ahhh, thanks so much. I feel a bit like I have won an Oscar not a school appeal!

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Highlights12 · 27/09/2018 19:38

Brilliant. That must be such a relief for you.

SE13Mummy · 28/09/2018 20:31

I've only seen your thread today but I'm delighted that the Diocese exercised some compassion in setting up an early appeal and that the panel's decision went in your favour. Well done to you for pursuing the issue. I hope DD2 settles into her new school and is happy there.

friendlyflicka · 28/09/2018 21:10

She had a really good day, thank you everyone. And so nice for me to have a daughter free day as well

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PatriciaHolm · 28/09/2018 21:11

Hurrah! Just seen this. Very pleased for you.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 03/10/2018 12:50

Well done! You’ve done so well. Hope your DDs enjoy being at the same school. Star

Thistly · 03/10/2018 13:31

Well done!

So stressful, school appeals.
I’m glad they both are happier in school, here’s to their future enjoyment of education Wine

141mum · 13/10/2018 00:49

Hi. God I feel for you. Going through this with my dd but she is year 11. Going for appeal and EHCP at the moment. I was advised by education solicitor not to remove her from school role for home education but get her signed off sick as once off the role it’s only you responsible.
Fingers crossed for you.
Dd is really lonely being home ed all she wants is to be in school with friends and be safe.

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