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Results from GCSE remarks?

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3076Worb · 06/09/2018 13:09

Just making final decisions about which to get remarked and heard some shocking info I wanted to share. (I realise marks can go up and down.)

A student who was 1 mark off a higher grade in English GSCE (AQA) has just got the results of the remark of paper 1 and has gone down 10 MARKS! She has now dropped a grade and has a tough decision about whether to get paper 2 remarked or not.

I was advised with being only 1 mark off a higher grade (around 10-11 marks between each grade) a remark was 'a no brainer'. School have now said, with this shock of 10 marks down, they have suggested no remark. There are saying it seems the boards are being a LOT tougher this year (esp. after getting so many marks wrong last year, with the new system, they want to show they have now got things sorted).

Has anyone got results from THIS year's GCSEs remarks yet?

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choirmumoftwo · 27/09/2018 18:53

Physics has gone up from a 7 to an 8, all on the first paper we submitted. So of the 3 reviews we requested, 2 subjects went up and 1 stayed the same. Happy days.

Bouledeneige · 28/09/2018 00:57

DS's English lang stayed the same but DD's A level Sociology went up from a B to an A. Hurrah!

hertsandessex · 28/09/2018 11:49

FWIW we had one paper remarked and went from A to A* - I think on the individual paper in question went from middle C to A so big jump. We got the actual exam script from Edexcel before requesting the remark and knew there was no way it would go lower than C.

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 28/09/2018 15:38

Herts, that is a big change! My DS had a successful review of marking - also Edexcel. Was one mark below a grade boundary and gained three marks over the two papers reviewed. He's got terrible handwriting and I did have a suspicion that the original marker, sitting there with a big pile of scripts still to mark, could have given up on trying to decipher his answers for a couple of the questions.

hertsandessex · 28/09/2018 15:49

Yes you do wonder about things like that. My wife actually teaches the subject so when we saw the exam script she was shocked that it had been marked C as was clearly an A. There must be so many wrong grades because people don't get remarked as advised not to or can't afford to.

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 28/09/2018 15:54

Agreed. It's an unfair system. Some students will miss out if their teachers or parents are not proactive or if there aren't funds available to pay for a marking review.

ChocolateWombat · 28/09/2018 19:18

I think there are fewer upgrades now because the Boards are keen to resist as they have to declare how many adjustments were made and that doesn't reflect well on the original marking. Unless marks are judged outside of the correct band, even if considered rather generous or mean they won't be adjusted, as seen within tolerance.....and in some subjects, a level of limited tolerance in marking is necessary. Fewer changes to marks this year isn't an indication that original marking is more accurate....just tighter controls on what warrants a change to mark. I think marking is often very unreliable, and that's pretty scary, especially when you know that they hope to not adjust marks if a remark is requested. And if you don't get a change based on a re-mark there really is. I where to go with it, unless you can show maladministarion. I have known students given grades 2 below what their script was judged to be, when their experienced teacher who was also an examiner, judged it to be, when looking at a photocopy of their script, as a way to decide if to go for a re-Mark. So a remark was requested very confidently...but no change, and nowhere for the student or school to go with challenging it. Not a fair or reliable system unfortunately.

And yes it absolutely works better for those with the knowledge and funds to use the system. Some independent schools will ask anyone with a slightly disappointing grade or close to the boundaries to pay and request a copy of their script. Some will be getting 5 or more. Teachers then look carefully at the marking to see if it looks mean and if it does and they don't seem close to a lower boundary they advise a remark (pointing out the risk of a down grade too,mor course)...so then some parents are paying for 5 or more remarks. Of course you are more likely to get upgraded if you actually put in for it, than if you don't and lots of people don't, because they don't understand the options available or the timescales, or because there is no encouragement to do it by schools even when the mark seems highly surprising, or people simply don't want to pay or can't pay. In lots of Independnet schools, with staff and parents in the know, most parents will expect to be putting for at least 1 script back and remark.....there's no real serious consideration of if the higher grade feels deserved, simply a sense of you might as well try, and go for priority remarks which are more expensive as there's often a sense that earlier remarks are more likely to see upgrades than later ones, as examiners looking them over perhaps come under more pressure to hold the line.

And if you've paid £20k per year in school fees for many years, a couple of extra hundred is a drop in the ocean if there's a chance of an extra grade or two, and you're far from the lower boundary, so the risk is low.

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