Do SATs results determine sets for English and Maths in Year 7?

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Do schools use these results to sort the kids into sets for these two subjects? Does anyone know what sort of scores would mean they were placed in the top two sets? Thanks

Not at our local secondary. It's done on CATS which are a more accurate assessment of ability.

They use it for maths at our secondary school, but re-test and assess throughout the year and can move the children at any half term, although in real term there are few children who will change.

They do keep track of children who have had very low SATS results, and those who have had very high. Their progress is assessed with their SATS as a baseline. Some children who are doing generally well at school but didn't perform well at SATS for whatever reason (they might have been ill on the day, for example) will show lots of progress during the first year so really they don't lose out.

@OpalBerry - sorry to hear about your DD's dad. Try not to worry about SATs and sets. Even if they do use them (DD's school do), they do lots of low key testing in Yr7 and shuffle where appropriate.

My DD got 100 in her Maths SAT (I thought this was minimum pass?). Started off in set 3 and was in set 1 by the end of Yr7.

Depends on the schools but round here I don't know any that do.

They pretty much all do their own tests later in autumn term, and base them on that and often have MA until then. The one I know who does only uses it initially until their own tests are done and then has a massive reshuffle.

Dd never did SATs and neither did many of her friends. The ones that then went into state secondaries were all just places according to internal tests at those schools - things like CATs and MIDYIS tests.

As the SATS results don't come out until after most of the secondary school transition visits have taken place, they won't actually have the results! Primary schools don't send them to secondary. Secondary schools don't have access to them online.
What the secondary schools do get from primary schools are the teacher assessments, which may or may not be the same as the sats results.

Soontobe, your information isn't correct. I work in a secondary school and not only have we got access to SATS results, we have access to the exact unscaled scores for each test, for each child.

Also, for the open day, the children go in their main form groups, but they are later streamed for Maths set ready for September start. So the children are in their regular form for all the classes except for maths, where they are streamed by ability. That's how it works at our school, but it is not the same for all schools obviously.

We do it on CATS which we make the incoming y7s do on transition days in July. There is a reasonable amount of movement in maths in the first term.
SATS are used for GCSE predictions.

At my son’s school they use a combination of SATs data and CAT tests to set in maths and English in y7. As a PP has said, SATs are definitely used to generate predicted GCSE scores though.

Thanks for replying @DameJulie
Hopefully it will work out ok for her.
I have an older dd at the school and they were very kind when my dh died, so it's a comfort to know that about the school before dd2 goes.

So sorry to hear your news OpalBerry. How are your daughter's settling in at school? I always think it's reassuring if the younger one has an older sibling to go to.