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Beechen Cliff Bath- 'Inadequate' Ofsted

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LovelyBath77 · 03/07/2018 09:32

Just seen this, doesn't look very good.

www.beechencliff.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Ofsted-2018-Full-Inspection-Report.pdf

and previously-
files.api.beta.ofsted.gov.uk/136520__4.PDF

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Charliescar · 05/07/2018 15:47

Girl gone South - they have “duty boys” etc it’s all very private school . The trouble is most of the boys going there are not from that sort of background and it leaves them feeling inadequate and resentful.
The price and type of the school trips are ridiculous
Cricket in Barbados
Skiing in the USA
Trip to China
To name a few
Again only a handful of boys get to go on these trips - it’s very wrong for a state school .

LovelyBath77 · 05/07/2018 16:43

The re-enactment of history thing may be plausable as I know they do re-enactiments in history- also they do study the space trade as well

See www.theguardian.com/education/2008/aug/26/slavery.schools

Not condoning it in any way but it may explain some of it.

YY to school trips being hugely expensive and sometimes only taking a few. We have had emails about trips with only 15 places and by the time try to book they are all gone.They could take more pupils and be more reasonable if they took them on less expensive trips, perhaps.

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LovelyBath77 · 05/07/2018 16:45

We're not from that kind of background either but don't think my son feels resentful etc. They haven't been to any other school so just accept it for what it is. It's easy to think how we might feel ourselves and think the children do, that might often not be the case.

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Charliescar · 05/07/2018 17:00

I think you could probably class my family as affluent . I am not flashy though . I know through the 5 years my son was there his confidence went downhill . I even attended a parents evening where the maths teacher could not remember all of his pupils . He asked what my son looked like 😭

LovelyBath77 · 05/07/2018 17:06

also 'day pupils' is fair enough as it has boarders, and some boys may well come from local prep schools etc. I know parents who could afford private schools but choose to send their boys there.

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Thundercracker · 05/07/2018 17:16

Sorry newdocket, I misunderstood your comment as bring about lack of evidence to say the govs reinstated the pupils.

Govs obviously are required to consider any decision by head to permanently exclude (whether or not parents appeal). Govs would have had to decide if decision was lawful, reasonable and procedurally fair. They clearly thought not.

Charliescar · 05/07/2018 17:24

I disagree with now all the schools in Bath being academies . They are now setting all their own rules etc .
Nothing is transparent

LovelyBath77 · 06/07/2018 13:41

This is about the letter sent by parents to the new parents starting.

www.somersetlive.co.uk/in-your-area/beechen-cliff-school-has-full-1749318

Useful to see Beechen Cliff twitter account as well for info and comments by parents

twitter.com/BeechenCliff

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localbathmum · 06/07/2018 17:13

For what it's worth, I think Beechen is two schools. It gives a fantastic experience for those who enjoy the cut and thrust of boys will be boys culture, traditional (some would say staid and unimaginative) lessons, learning that depends heavily on homework, very competitive and attainment celebrating extra curricular activities. Those parents who wrote the letter would mostly come from that camp. And even if not, there is a certain arrogance in thinking they know better, based on the experience of their 29 year seven boys, than experienced inspectors who saw the whole school when it was least expecting to be on show. Genuinely, though, if you have a son without complicated needs who has good support from home, I have no doubt he would thrive at Beechen, as these parents clearly feel their sons have in their first year.

On the other hand, there are multiple local stories of a "one size fits all" approach, serious and unaddressed bullying, concerns meeting a brick wall if any degree of flexibility needed and generally not meeting the needs of those boys who are vulnerable or disadvantaged in any way and who also have a right to expect a good education from what is a non selective comprehensive school.
Many, many boys leave because the school does not do enough to support them.

Also, the school was criticised for not giving appropriate work for children's ability and not challenging them, whatever their ability. Given the high starting points, actually Beechen does not get boys to make great progress, even though the raw data gives impressive exam results. You would expect boys whose parents have chosen Beechen, knowing that it promises "traditional academic education" and are prepared to bring them for testing on a Saturday morning in June, to do better than boys do on average nationally. And in fairness to Ofsted, they recognise progress is better in maths and science.

A lot of their practice, be it streaming from day one (boys doing all lessons in groups that have been decided according to ability from SATs and CATs tests rather than set on ability in individual subjects), is found by strong educational research to help only the most able to do better. Again, a sign that Beechen is meeting the needs of the most able whilst neglecting what would be best for children with SEN or who are simply less able.

I am not surprised by the report. I do wish that the school had been a bit humbler in its statements following the report. I also wish parents could understand that ofsted is not a body that, for any school, recognises the effort teachers put in. It is not it's job. If that were the case, those staff paddling furiously to stay still in very tough areas where most of their students lack the advantages that many boys at Beechen have would all achieve outstanding. As it is, Ofsted is there to comment on and judge what it sees on that day or days.

It is backed up by the school's own data and plenty of opportunity is given for the school to provide evidence and argue their case if they believe Ofsted have it wrong. This will have been the case for Beechen and, believe me, they will have been very saddened by having to give an Inadequate rating and aware of the effect this will have on the school staff, parents and pupils alike.

It is in nobody's interests to have inadequate rated schools in an area, not least the government's. To say this is a politically motivated act is not right. Ofsted has, I think, become aware that the fact that outstanding rated schools so I frequently get reinspected has led to complacency, but this inspection was triggered by serious safeguarding issues and not a regular inspection anyway. And as for it being to try and force Beechen to join a MAT? Currently, the government is stepping back from this being an automatic move in the wake of problems with MATs taking over inadequate schools and not doing a good job of turning them round.

What Ofsted saw was a school that had not taken seriously enough several incidents of great significance and did not, on that day (and presumably the days and weeks and months after if Ofsted hadn't come) have practices and policies in place to keep all students safe and well educated.

As for the argument that Ofsted shouldn't have come in exam season, that's just life. There are very few dates Ofsted avoids, for the very reason that children should be getting a decent education whatever else is going on. Beechen will not be the only school to be inspected during this period.

I personally think a school is only as good as the strength of education and supper the most vulnerable students receive. In this, Beechen has been found wanting, no matter how many rugby teams they have, expensive school trips they run or centurion challenge 100km walks they take year sevens on. In fact, the report reads as if they feel extra curricular activities are more worthy of their time and effort than supporting the most vulnerable students.

This might (although I would hope not) be acceptable in an independent school which selects on ability to attain and pay, but it is not in a state run, local comprehensive school.

My biggest fear is that the very pupils whose needs were found to be neglected will be further put off from applying to their local school and the image of Beechen as private education for free be perpetuated. On the other hand, this Ofsted could finally make some difference.

Sorry to be so impassioned, but I do feel unable to speak out locally.

GarethSouthgatesRevenge · 06/07/2018 17:20

Great post @localbathmum 👏

localbathmum · 06/07/2018 17:22

Thanks Gareth. I'm aware it won't be the view of lots. It was quite cathartic to write as I do feel quite strongly about it.

LovelyBath77 · 06/07/2018 18:27

I agree with a lot of what localbathmum says. Just wanted to mention in case anyone was reading and was put off by the costs etc, that I know that they do help with uniform costs (they fund half the costs) and they also fully fund the first school trip (all the boys go to a cottage in the first term) which would help people considering the first year of the school. They also may provide some funds towards other trips too (this is for pupils on free school meals).

I recognise what you are saying with regard the streaming issue as well- from experience - sometimes they can get into a stream based on SATS in year 7 and be less challenged in the first years. My son says in one class they seemed to keep going over the same things and he wanted to move on. They do try and move them up and down based on tests but not sure how much this happens in practice- can't imagine parents liking their sons being moved down.

With regards homework and parental support, I don't find the homework excessive, and they can do it independently. It's all online. They also have sessions after school run by staff for children to complete homework supervised, and the school or parents can request they do this. So, I do feel all parents would be supported with that by the school.

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LovelyBath77 · 06/07/2018 18:36

PS I know what you mean about not being able to say anything locally. The parents I speak to are just very defensive (understandably) of the school and how wonderful it is etc, so it is difficult to say what you think, sometimes.

I hope it will encourage some reflection on priorities. It's not all about fancy trips and extra-sullicular activities but the simple things like attainment in the less able.. I think the way it talks about the most able getting excellent results and the others getting a 'good pass' (something like that) anyway kind of sums it up really. It seems that they kind of focus on the most high achieving and the sporty ad the others coast a bit...kind of doing OK or not as well as they might. Then again, the nature of it is that they have bigger class sizes and would be able to provide less attention than in private school. And that seems to be more so recently with class sizes over 30.

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AnotherBCparent · 06/07/2018 18:37

Second name change on this thread.

I don't understand your motivation for posting, OP.

AnotherBCparent · 06/07/2018 18:39

x post. I understand a little more now.

LovelyBath77 · 06/07/2018 18:57

Yes, well mainly concern due to the report and that it is difficult to discuss generally locally. When I've mentioned it it has been dismissed as 'awful' or something like that and then they just start raving on about how good the school is. So I keep quiet.

The costs are a struggle. We're on a low income, not low enough for free school meals though. My son wanted to go on one of the more expensive trips- they had an assembly about it and he came home really excited etc. We saved up for nearly two years for that, putting money aside every month and the grandparents pitched in too. There is always something and it does always seem to cost a lot. Although I understand things like the Duke of Edinburgh's award are probably free. They send emails with an expensive trip mentioned- but there are only like, 15 places and by the time you go to sign up and pay an hour later, all the places are gone.

I can imagine it must feel even harder if you were in a more difficult situation than ours...it would be pretty stressful I expect.

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LovelyBath77 · 06/07/2018 19:02

The main reason we chose the school (as well as friends going) is ironically, for cost reasons, as it is closest and the boys will be able to walk. It would be a struggle for us to afford the bus pass out of town to Ralph Allen, and it is closest for us.

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cantkeepawayforever · 06/07/2018 19:06

Just read the first post, and the report.

That is one of the worst, in terms of absolute disregard of all that is genuinely important in education, reports I have ever read for a secondary school.

Most 'Inadequate' reports have gleams of light, or are for schools sited in areas, and with cohorts, where making progress is difficult for reasons totally outwith the school's control. This reads like a school whose values and priorities are at total cross-purposes to the needs of its pupils, and who are, worse, totally blind to this.

localbathmum · 06/07/2018 19:11

Can'tkeepaway, sadly, I agree. It has been very hard this week to keep relatively quiet because many of my friends have sons there and are of course feeling strong feelings, while being completely and utterly unsurprised. It will be interesting to see how it pans out. People's responses now are understandably emotional and they have had an unsettling experience. You wouldn't know this from the parents who state that it's vastly unfair, that Ofsted has it in for Beechen and that because their son is okay, everything the report says is nonsense, apart from a token "what school is perfect? Of course there are things to sharpen up on" response.

LovelyBath77 · 06/07/2018 19:13

I think the word I was looking for was accessible. They could make some of the trips more accessible to everyone by, for example going to France rather than USA. The costs would be much less. It really puts it out of the reach of many, and then they miss the experience, but that seems to be OK. It is more important for the few to go somewhere special than everyone to be given the opportunity for the experience...

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localbathmum · 06/07/2018 19:15

Lovely, you shouldn't have to consider anything other than your local school and it has an obligation to educate those who come through the door, whatever their needs, if they are able to be in mainstream education. That's what comprehensive means. I hope current parents fight hard to get what they deserve for their sons and that the parents meetings the head is holding will listen to concerns rather than being a PR job and start of a campaign to support BC. Parents should support it...to change.

LovelyBath77 · 06/07/2018 19:19

Maybe it can get a balance, of keeping all the things it does well...but adapting to reality (!) and meeting the needs of all.

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localbathmum · 06/07/2018 19:30

It totally can, but it will need to properly and fully acknowledge the concerns rather than passing off high levels of high grades as progress, and making sure it embraces being a state comprehensive rather than trying to be some weird mix of old fashioned private school and 50's grammar school.

LovelyBath77 · 06/07/2018 20:15

They could keep the good bits- the house system for example - and the uniform etc but just make it a bit more inclusive. Less expensive / exclusive trips for example. I don't like the bus adverts or being asked to contribute via a direct debut at the start, as saying so much on school fees, that wasn't an option for us and it's not really a choice - we needed the local school..

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LovelyBath77 · 06/07/2018 20:16

they were in the news about that as well I remember www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-26083998

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