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Gcse 2018 (10) The one with half term

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Stickerrocks · 26/05/2018 22:34

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idsisatwat · 01/06/2018 15:13

Thanks Cblue

I think that’s what’s thrown me as it’s out of character. Though have had more tears these last few months over exams than we’ve ever had before. And I think it’s 3 times since Christmas.
I’ve given her a cuddle, and told her it’ll be ok. Hopefully that will help

idsisatwat · 01/06/2018 15:15

And I’ve asked one of DS’s friends to come round and talk geography to her on Sunday. He’s doing geography at UCL, so should be able to put her mind at ease a bit.
Fingers crossed!!

BlueBelle123 · 01/06/2018 15:20

Just catching up. The guardian article is interesting, I agree a change would be welcome so much pressure is put on them whether it's from school, themselves, peers or family to succeed and yet to me it's completely out of proportion to the importance of GCSEs, the vast majority of cases GCSEs grades soon become insignificant once the next step is reached.

I also think education should be taken out of the hands of politicians, and it should be the teachers who have the say as not only do they actually know what is going on in the classroom but they come from a much broader cross section of society so are better placed to make changes with everyone in mind.. just my thoughts!!

Stickerrocks · 01/06/2018 15:40

mmzz He started under the English system doing years R to 5 alongside DD, then moved 400 miles away from home up to Scotland as a boarder when he was 10. He's the same age as all of ours and did his Nat 5s last summer when he was 15 and his Highers now at 16. As he only took around 8 subjects initially, then dropped down to 5, the Scottish system seems to not study things for very long. I wonder how they manage to cram in the same amount as A levels in such a short space of time.

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Cblue · 01/06/2018 15:41

Tried to post and failed miserably so may end up with 2 posts instead but.....

One of DDs gripes is its all anyone talks about. What revision did you do this morning, what are you revising, how did the exam go, what answer did you get for question 3, what grade do you think you got, what exam is tomorrow/this week/next week, how are you finding it etc etc etc from multiple people. It was just piling on the pressure she felt- she’s a bit of a perfectionist.

Trying hard not to talk to her about it (really hard) which is one of the reasons I joined MN.

Oh, and we have a punch bag that takes a regular pounding from both of us (she does martial arts whereas I am just stressed ha ha).

Stickerrocks · 01/06/2018 15:42

idsisatwat We have AQA geography here, but does your DD have a case study with pre-seen material which she needs to cover. The AQA one is about an Oxfordshire reservoir this year. The teachers have given them a whole pack of potential questions around it to have a stab at. I didn't realise there was a higher paper - is it iGCSE?

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Stickerrocks · 01/06/2018 15:45

Cblue please see the 253 & counting previous rants I've had along those exact same lines. Not to mention the discussion about how they will "die" if they don't get straight grade 9s (last year DD's school achieved a grand total of 5 grade 9s in maths & English and it's not a poor performing school). We use a tennis ball and racket in the same way as your punchbag.

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mmzz · 01/06/2018 15:54

Stickerrocks he must have been put up a year because you do NAT5s in S4 (Secondary year 4) when you are either 16 or 15, but about to turn 16.

They don't cram 2 years of A level into 1 year of Higher.

Highers are a 12 month course (with all the usual school holidays). So the students that have just finished their Nat 5s will be starting their Higher courses now and taking them this time last year. Whereas in England, all our children won't be doing anything until September.

Also the Highers are less deep than the A levels. Typically students take 5 of them, whereas here its only 3. However, the Scottish universities pick up where Highers leave off, so the english students who go to university in Scotland find that they are going over old ground at first. IME, they find the first term at university in Scotland is like year 13 i terms of content, but from January onwards they are doing new stuff. (The English students I knew thought they were going to be a whole year ahead and got a bit of a shock after Christmas).
But Scotland does 4 year honours courses, not 3, so although you go to university behind the English students who've done A levels, your age group in England join a year later and you finish at the same time.

I don't know how the advanced Higher thing works. My fear is it relates to the "narrowing the gap" that the SNP obsesses over, which in practice means holding the more able students back so there results look closer to the less able's results.

The pisa rankings indicate that I may be right. Scotland has gone from having an excellent education system to having one that has suffered through political interference.

Cblue · 01/06/2018 15:54

stickerrocks- it would cost us a fortune in rackets!!!
It’s weird though because when she does finally talk it through rationally it normally transpires that it was a couple of questions that were hard and not the entire paper but that’s all she can focus on after the event.

Idsisatwat - is your DD taking breaks/seeing friends/doing sport?

Stickerrocks · 01/06/2018 16:00

hmc & Don't You're safe. hmc has the same 6th form as DD, whereas don't has our alternative option. We won't all be turning up at the opening evening in 3 weeks time which I had a letter about earlier trying to work out which frazzled parent has shared our ups & downs!

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Stickerrocks · 01/06/2018 16:03

mmzz an autumn birthday, so Nat 5 would have been last year. That makes sense about starting in the summer, as I asked if he was coming home after his exams for a long summer break and was told no, he stays up there.

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hmcAsWas · 01/06/2018 16:12

Flowers for all of you who have had concert ticket disappointments. Its so hard to get hold of them these days! Some years ago (dd would have been around 11/12) we got tickets for dd to see One Direction (she was only 11/12 so we'll let her off!) through viagogo for 4x the surface value of the ticket. When we got the NEC we couldn't get in - the seller had cancelled the tickets. It was a nightmare - dd in floods of tears. NEC were very good and let us have some restricted view seats up in the Gods which rescued the day

Idsisatwat - I think a good number of dc on this thread have had an exam stress meltdown at some point. During dd's meltdown (last week) she threw a chocolate bar at her wardrobe and it slipped down the back (and is now inaccessible) - cue more hysterics. It was almost comical

Wonderwine - yes their profiles do sound very similar indeed! I must confess I am worrying a bit now about the discussion on here re a tightening up of criteria for extra time, in case this impacts for sixth form and suddenly dd finds herself no longer eligible

Brainmelt - I've read that about melatonin before. Dd stuggles with sleeping much before midnight and is usually on her knees by the end of the week with all the early starts. She used to get a bus into school which necessitated getting up at 6.30 and she protested so bitterly (and looked ashen with exhaustion) that I ended up routinely driving her in the 34 mile round trip - so that she could sleep in an extra 45 minutes until 7.15. Taking exams early certainly impacts on dd - she isn't even 16 yet

Teenmum60 · 01/06/2018 16:22

DD far to pragmatic to worry about results ......she seems to already have a PlanB of how to get into Medicine if PlanA doesn't work. This is a girl that had no real career ambitions 2 weeks ago!

Stickerrocks · 01/06/2018 16:29

After days of being good cop (Hollister bikini anyone?), I've turned into bad cop and reminded DD that if she goes back to school on Monday regretting lolloping on the sofa and not getting on with her science revision, she only has herself to blame.

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brainmelt · 01/06/2018 16:44

education should be taken out of the hands of politicians, and it should be the teachers who have the say

hear, hear.

Sostenueto · 01/06/2018 17:55

Well cheered dgd up a bit dd bought her an I tune voucher which she promptly bought the album for kyc and Frank Sinatra album too!Confused. Her all time favourite song....Unforgettable by Nat King Cole?????
Such strange taste in music my dgd has!

Sostenueto · 01/06/2018 17:56

Totally agree brainmelt

LooseAtTheSeams · 01/06/2018 18:16

Total agreement here Brainmelt
Sostenueto Nothing wrong with Nat King Cole! I'm glad she's feeling better now.
DS has wasted the afternoon gaming but assures me some revision will happen later...

Stickerrocks · 01/06/2018 18:23

Don't panic Loose. DD spent the whole morning watching the queue for BTS tickets inch slowly forward on screen to no avail, then I found her face down on the sofa later as she "couldn't concentrate". She has subsequently sprung into revision action.

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123fushia · 01/06/2018 18:48

Stickerocks - EXACTLY the same has happened here. Months of being a patient mum with sporadic revision from DD has not worked. Gave her THE TALK today. History books are out at last. Good luck to you. X

PeggySchuylar · 01/06/2018 18:56

It's so hard to keep going isn't it.
DD needs company to revise and someone to help with making sense of paragraphs longer than 2 sentences.

But I don't WANT to do waves and electro magnetism.

Goodness knows how DD feels.

Stickerrocks · 01/06/2018 18:59

123fushia what you may not know if you have only joined us recently is that I'm paid to teach people how to pass their professional exams. I spend my entire working life trying to motivate young professionals to get through ridiculously hard papers and failing miserably at home.

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DoNotBringLulu · 01/06/2018 19:20

Sticker I got the letter today, we will be going - the evening of last exam for ds!

Several from ds's school will be going to your first choice. My friend's son went, he very much enjoyed it there.

Stickerrocks · 01/06/2018 19:52

I think DD is using it as a good excuse to move away from her toxic on/off friends. She is going to the taster day though, just in case, so could strike up an immediate friendship with your DS. Will we ever know?

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mmzz · 01/06/2018 20:42

Peggy I don't either (although it was the RE stuff I really didn't want to do). YouTube videos (for the explaining) and Tassomai for the checking knowledge have been a saviour.

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