GCSE PE - girls performances vs boys?

[Bumbleboar]

My DD is doing GCSE PE, and is taking sports which are more typically played by boys (so for example, rubgy). She says her PE teacher has told her that she will never get a high score for the performance element, as the boys will always be better than her so he has to score them higher. She plays this sport for the County, so for a girl, is really good. But obviously, if you put her on a boy's team, she could not compete.

So, how does this work? In sports like football, rugby, tennis, athletics, women's performance is measured against other women. Is this not the case with GSCE PE? Or has the teacher (or my DD) got it wrong? I can see how this is tricky - as on the other side of the argument, why should a boy at a similar standard to my DD get scored lower than she does, if he is by comparison to his male peers, less good.

Can anyone advise me how this works!

Participation does not necessarily equal technique though. The specification is all about technique. You can have millions of people playing at a low casual level. That’s fine of course. High participation should mean that technique is good but that will depend on quality of coaching. If there are so many girls playing football then I’m amazed schools don’t have ultra competitive well coached teams! The numbers and school participation don’t seem to add up!

It seems to be a very dodgy GCSE to choose if your school doesn’t support your main sport. Individual sport may fare better where seams and levels are assessed.

seams?? Exams

hmcAsWas - I wasn't only referring to hockey v football. I'm sure lots of other sports have the same issue (oh except of course football apparently).
Bottom line is that whatever the sport, playing County level doesn't necessarily mean that player will score a high mark. You could have an outstanding player who won't score highly in all areas. Doesn't mean they don't get selected, just means they aren't perfect..

"If there are so many girls playing football I am amazed that schools don't have ultra competitive well coached teams"

"If"? Seriously? - yes you are right Sport England are making the numbers up!

Most state secondary schools do have well coached competitive teams

Re it being a risky choice of GCSE if your school doesn't support the sport - nonsense. You've seen posters on this thread reference horse riding as a sport their dc did for PE (and indicating that it is quite easy to score well in horse riding). Dd managed 18/20 for a sport her school doesn't offer for girls (school too small for viable numbers) so clearly it wasn't risky for her. Please don't worry on her account she is predicted a 7/8

You seem rather invested in this?

I really didn’t mean a negative “if”. I think you are splitting hairs! I am well aware many girls play football but you really don’t know how good the coaching is nationwide in schools. I thought there was a shortage of grass roots coaches in football. Again, numbers are not necessarily nationwide excellence.

I obviously realise equestrian sports are not supported by schools but many children choose team sports as part of their sport portfolio and poorer children really are not going to do horse riding. I speak here as a racehorse owner. Riding Lessons and horses are expensive. Many are taught by their parents and come from horsey families which is entirely different to the choices available to a poor child from a deprived area in a city. I bet Briony Frost would have got a 9 in GCSE PE should she have taken it! But we all know she would have had every opportunity to do well. Therefore many poorer children have to choose what’s on offer at school. Also many do not have parents who can help and support in any way at all. Therefore it’s a risky GCSE for some.

I’m glad your DD will get her 7/8. It must be a great feeling.

Most state secondary schools do have well coached competitive teams
that's not our experience, in our (massive) local authority, sadly.

Re it being a risky choice of GCSE if your school doesn't support the sport - nonsense.
I agree, that is nonsense. We have a friend who is doing climbing, for example - she's an excellent climber. Really easy to film as it is one person, doing a set climb, with a known difficulty rating, and doesn't depend on the opposition, or the weather, or being in a difficult to film situation, or isn't dependent on team mates, etc.,etc. If she has a bad climb it's fine, she just goes again a few minutes later, and is filmed again. You can't do that in a PE lesson.

Also many do not have parents who can help and support in any way at all. Therefore it’s a risky GCSE for some.
this I do agree with though.

Hi. Dd did GCSE this year. She did football and cricket. Football she got 17/20, we submitted videos and her and her friend went to an external moderating day. Cricket she got 20/20 and was told that that was partly down to playing at county level, although we submitted lots of videos too 😊

In terms of support from the school, there was very little!! We did the football videos (her big brother filmed her keeping for a whole game!) and her county coaches had a lot of video anyway which they added to over the winter