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Maths gcse boundary grades

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hmmwhatatodo · 01/04/2018 16:47

Hello, I’m trying (and failing) to get my head around the complicated system for working out approx marks needed to get certain grades.

Studying gcse maths foundation with edexcel can anyone tell me approximately how many marks out of 240 will be needed to secure the equivalent of an old c. Or if anyone can tell me how many marks to gain a 4 or 5 grade? I think I saw that 122 were needed to get grade 4 in the exams last year but I may be misinterpreting the data.
Thanks in advance!

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TheFallenMadonna · 01/04/2018 16:56

Summer 2017 it was 122/240 for a 4. November 2017 it was 113/240 for a 4.

TheFallenMadonna · 01/04/2018 16:58

The grade boundaries are set after all the exams are marked though.

Explained here

hmmwhatatodo · 01/04/2018 17:52

Thanks a lot, yes I see that they are set after the exams but I just wanted an idea based on previous exams as you have show. Do you think there is much chance it will be wildly different?

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gillybeanz · 01/04/2018 18:00

High 90's = 9
High 80's/ low 90's = 8
High 70's /low 80's = 7
High 60s to low 70's = 6
High 50s to low 60s = 5
High 40s to low 50's =4
High 30's to low 40's 3

Or something like that, from a friend who is HOD

TheFallenMadonna · 01/04/2018 18:11

Not sure I understand those gilllybeanz?

hmmwhatatodo · 01/04/2018 18:12

Thanks gillybeanz. So confusing! Is that the percentage from the 3 papers added together?

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TheFallenMadonna · 01/04/2018 18:13

Wildly different, probably not. A bit higher, possibly. I think.

gillybeanz · 01/04/2018 18:19

Sorry, yes a percentage,
At the time the reports were saying that the levels could change as the syllabus became older.
I suppose as you have shown yourself, between the years so far.

She did tell me it wasn't widely accepted, a complete science, but would help put my mind at rest a bit as I was quite worried at the time.
I have a borderline child.

noblegiraffe · 01/04/2018 18:25

Gilly’s boundaries look like they’re for the higher paper. For Foundation last year it was just over 50% for the equivalent of a C (ignore the November grade boundaries, they were odd because it was a resit paper). It will probably be slightly higher this year, because the cohort will be better prepared than last year, and the foundation papers are being amended to be more accessible. Probably not past 60% though. A 5 last year was about 65%.

Mercison · 01/04/2018 18:29

Gilly those grade boundaries are too high

Mercison · 01/04/2018 18:32

Last year I think a higher maths 55 percent was a 6 or 7

noblegiraffe · 01/04/2018 18:35

Yeah last year on the higher paper it was 17% for a 4. Nowhere near 50%!

TheFallenMadonna · 01/04/2018 18:37

Just shy of 80% for a 9!

gillybeanz · 01/04/2018 18:37

Sorry, didn't mean to confuse further. Thanks

hmmwhatatodo · 01/04/2018 18:57

so it could be 60% which I think is 144/240 to get a c grade. Yikes.

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noblegiraffe · 01/04/2018 19:10

Unlikely to change that much, but with Edexcel making the papers easier and the cohort being better prepared, it’s more likely the grade boundaries will be higher than lower than last year.

But obviously the best thing to do is to prepare as well as you can. We don’t know where the grade boundaries can be, the only thing that can change is how you do on the day.

hmmwhatatodo · 01/04/2018 19:35

Ok, well thanks all!

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Oratory1 · 01/04/2018 19:36

I’m confused. In one post you say 50 % for a 4 and in another 17 %. I thought the 17 % was more quoted so I think gills s are too high

noblegiraffe · 01/04/2018 19:40

50% for a 4 on the foundation paper, 17% for a 4 on the higher paper.

OP is talking about foundation, so the 50% figure is the relevant one.

hmmwhatatodo · 01/04/2018 20:24

Please let it closer to 50 than 60% for a c!

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Oratory1 · 01/04/2018 20:34

Oh thanks

gillybeanz · 01/04/2018 21:17

Can I ask a question please?
Is it true that the questions increase in difficulty, so the percentage of lower grades comes first?

I too am hoping for it to be closer to 50% then 60% for a pass.
even though there's time, mine has started the syllabus in Y9, which is great, and just the easier stuff, but the worry has started already.

gillybeanz · 01/04/2018 21:18

Forgot to say, I'm so glad my figures were too high, apologies again.
It's quite refreshing and less worrying for me.

hmmwhatatodo · 01/04/2018 23:20

Not that I would have the answer anyway gillybeanz but I don’t understand your question!

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gillybeanz · 01/04/2018 23:49

I'm not sure I can even explain tbh.

Ok, on the ofqual boundary pages, as linked above, it gives levels and percentage of the questions. eg Foundation has 50% questions at level 1-3 and 505 at 3-5.
does this mean that the questions start at level 1 and progress to level 5 being the last questions, or are they mixed between levels throughout the paper?

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