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Would you snitch?

76 replies

Smelliottsmum · 05/03/2018 18:20

I am pretty sure that a mum from my son’s school has lied about her address to get her child a place at a berry in demand secondary school. As the crow flies we are quite a lot nearer to said school than she is. My child did not get a place.
I’m tempted to report them. Just wondered if anyone else has done so?

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Greensleeves · 05/03/2018 18:23

Would your child get allocated the place if her child suddenly became ineligible? I doubt it.

I see the temptation and the frustration, but don't do it. It would be pointless and spiteful, and buy you nothing.

Roseredvelvet · 05/03/2018 18:23

No!

tiggytape · 05/03/2018 18:27

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meditrina · 05/03/2018 18:29

Yes, report them. The system sure as hell isn't made better/faupirer by tolerating cheats.

If they did nothing wrong, there's no problem for them.

If they did receive an offer when they shouid not have done, then somewhere there's a family who would have got that place, and that child matters just as much as the one in this family.

Just be aware that distances might not be 'as crow flies' and there may be other non-obvious factors (such as exceptional social or medical need) which means the DC is in a higher entrance category.

Rewn7 · 05/03/2018 18:29

I think I’d report it so that the LA could investigate. However that child could be in a higher admission category for the school than you are and that might be why they got the place.

Admissions fraud is not victimless as if she has done it there will be a child who’s missed out on a place. It might not be your child though.

If she’s done nothing wrong any investigation will prove that and no action will be taken.

Smelliottsmum · 05/03/2018 18:29

Yes you are right it probably wouldn’t mean my child got a place but there are so many people doing the same thing I am so frustrated. I am more annoyed with the actual system that they allow people to defraud them in this way snd honest people and their children are the ones who end up being penalised 😩

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EdithWeston · 05/03/2018 18:32

"Would your child get allocated the place if her child suddenly became ineligible? I doubt it."

No, but somebody's child would get the place. The child that should have had it in the first place.

After all, if you were top of the waiting list - would you really be happy that your DC didn't get a place that was rightfully theirs?

AngelsWithSilverWings · 05/03/2018 18:43

Do you have any proof that they have have done anything underhand to get the place at the school?

I'm wondering if I will get treated with suspicion when my (adopted) child gets a place at the ( very oversubscribed and not in catchment ) school I want her to go to.

mumdebump · 05/03/2018 18:48

Angels, you probably will, as will parents of DC with 'invisible' needs that put them in a higher category. However, you will know that you have done nothing underhand.

tiggytape · 05/03/2018 18:53

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chinnyrekkon · 05/03/2018 18:54

I would, in a heartbeat. But then, I've never been one to follow the 'law of the playground ' and always call out shitty behaviour when I find it.

This 'beak-out' obsession on mn only ever benefits the piss takers in life.

tiggytape · 05/03/2018 19:01

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Gileswithachainsaw · 05/03/2018 19:04

I would.if all is ok then nothing will happen. But if a person lied then that place was stolen from Someone else. Probably causing alot of distress and financial worry.

You wouldn't be responsible for a child losing their place. A parent who lied would be responsible.

I know alot of people disappointed with their place myself included but we don't lie and we don't take it from someone else
We wait on lists.

gussyfinknottle · 05/03/2018 19:17

As tempting as it is, you don't know the child doesn't rank higher on the criteria despite the distance.
I'd try and think it was that or believe that this will bite them on the arse if they are playing the system.

Gileswithachainsaw · 05/03/2018 19:22

How will it bite them in the arse of no one reports it.

Gileswithachainsaw · 05/03/2018 19:22

If the child ranks higher then all is fair and no action taken

gussyfinknottle · 05/03/2018 19:28

Bad shit will happen to someone who tells such a big lie.
It's the kind of thing I try and comfort myself with. Doesn't always help. It's the best I've got.

Gileswithachainsaw · 05/03/2018 19:33

Well that's not much comfort to people who had to quit jobs move into a cramped apartment they can barely afford and had their kid in tears daily.

Woukd you wait for karma of someone stole your car or report it stolen?

chinnyrekkon · 05/03/2018 19:38

Woukd you wait for karma of someone stole your car or report it stolen?

Exactly! Karma isn't real. There is no natural balance. We create our own balances, and reporting wrongdoing is absolutely a part of that.

gussyfinknottle · 05/03/2018 19:44

If someone stole my car, a criminal offence, I would go to the police. Currently dealing with a disappointed child who didn't get into their school of choice and , as we appeal, I know that one other person appealing is going to lie. She was stupid enough to put it on Facebook.
No, of course I don't think karma is the answer. It's what I tell myself when some piece of shit tells a lie and there is nothing realistically I can do about it.

cantkeepawayforever · 05/03/2018 19:44

Just pass the information on top the council 'X lives further away from school X than my address, but has got a place wheres my child hasn't. Please could you investigate?'

cantkeepawayforever · 05/03/2018 19:45

Gussy, of course there is something that you can do - screenshot the facebook post and forward it to the council as a 'For your information when considering X's appeal'.

For evil to triumph, all it needs is for good people to stand by, and all that....

Gileswithachainsaw · 05/03/2018 19:51

Fraud is a crime though

It affects ts us all either directly or indirectly. There may not be a physical object to hold but you know what I'd rather someone stole my car. It's Insured . I managed for decades on buses before. A person might not ever know what they lost but it steals a whole life and a whole set of circumstances from someone. That matters.

gussyfinknottle · 05/03/2018 19:54

Ok - I'll screenshot it. I don't think I am more likely to get a place by showing up someone's lies as part of my appeal. But, you're right, it might make me feel better to throw them under a bus.

Gileswithachainsaw · 05/03/2018 19:54

They did that themselves. It's not on you

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